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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 09:23 AM        Administration OFFCIALLY embraces torture.
U.S. Can Use Evidence Gained by Torture

By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Evidence gained by torture can be used by the U.S. military in deciding whether to imprison a foreigner indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as an enemy combatant, the government concedes.

Statements produced under torture have been inadmissible in U.S. courts for about 70 years. But the U.S. military panels reviewing the detention of 550 foreigners as enemy combatants at the U.S. naval base in Cuba are allowed to use such evidence, Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General Brian Boyle acknowledged at a U.S. District Court hearing Thursday.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 09:41 AM       
Well, I suppose you gotta do something when offers of candy and foot massages stop producing actionable intelligence...
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:35 AM       
Yeah, but thas torture ever been found to produce good, factual intelligence or do people just say what they have to under torture?
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 02:47 PM       
So, uh, I guess the Geneva Convention doesn't stand for much nowadays.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 03:59 PM       
it's quaint, remember?
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 06:32 PM       
Quaint is good, though, right?
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Old Dec 4th, 2004, 11:31 AM       
A surprising majority of so called "civilized, democratic, and free-thinking" countries have been using torture tactics on the low down forever. My Grandfather has several stories where his fellow soldiers in WWII had no problem putting out cigs on POW's in order to get information. It's been happening forever just about everywhere to varying degrees. And I'm not at all suportive of it, but it's nothing new, and it's not just an American problem either.
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Old Dec 4th, 2004, 05:06 PM       
oh i didn't realize other people did it

i guess it's a necessary evil then
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