Jessica Lynch injured by crash and saved by Iraqis not GI

[Abcdxxxx]

Ranxer - You're incredibly foolish. You find what you want to hear and champion it. Admit it, you love conspiracy, and you live feeling like a counterculture dissident. How juvenile of you.

The Jessica Lynch story WAS fictionalized. To what extent and how, I'm not sure we'll ever be certain. It's not the scandal you're hoping.

One thing that came out, and that most version of ths story ignore is the involvement of Mossad. The CIA confirmed this. Maybe that's what BBC means by Iraqi's?

[mburbank]

Are you trying to say that Ranx is a Johnny one note, a one trick pony who no matter the story see a single angle? The same angle every time, so that all stories are really about one single thing, and that it's always the same thing and that he always thinks the same thing about it and only posts about that one thing over and over and over and amazingly finds evidence of that topic in all other topics?

You're right. That IS juvenile.

[Drew Katsikas]

Originally Posted by ranxer

hmm, well, i don't think all the facts are in, so your claims may be a bit premature..if you are wrong will you call youself an idiot? i have a lot of names i could throw at you for attacking me for questioning the 'official story.'
instead i've got a question..

when is it ok with you for someone to question the 'official story?'

i for one view the news with a lot of skepticism and only claim a suspician.. i want to know what really happened and who lied, if anybody did.. i want to know who is credible and who is not.

i'm not interested in chastising folks for honest mistakes, i can understand that a small error can lead to big consequences, but there's a difference between an error that is honestly looked at and a coverup.. happens everyday and takes a lot of work to sift thru. :/

I never said it wasn't ok to question the official story. News and media lie, granted. They probably put the Lynch story out of proportion. Guess who else lies and makes shit seem bigger than it is? BBC news apparentley, and you, posting every goddamn conspiracy theory in the world. Oh wait, actually you never have posted the ones that support a conservative agenda. Excuse me for exaggerating.

[Abcdxxxx]

Originally Posted by mburbank

Are you trying to say that Ranx is a Johnny one note

Um, nope. I think I said, what I said, just fine.... but nice try.

[Zhukov]

Haha. Word up.

Actually I was refering to the lack of Capitalist governments on the moon, and was not proposing to send ranxer there. I get told to leave my country often enough and it really shits me. "If you don't like it, why don't you move?" - I fucking hate it.

On the actual article itself, I got an article practicaly the same on May 29, so the I wasn't surprised about it's content (who is?). I am surprised, however, to see the BBC report it.

The war in Iraq reminds alot of people about Vietnam, and along with the winning the war and winning the Hearts and Minds of the paople, the govt needs to prevent mass action on the homefront from spoiling everything. There is an image of the Vietnam Vets being pot smoking baby killers, and the image of a brave and heroic Jessica Lynch and her rescuers was supposed to cover that up.

[AChimp]

Im sure that when YOU were using GPS and radios in the middle of an unfamiliar desert at night it was probably quite easy. I guess those dumb Americans probably should have headed to Canada before they deployed so you could square them away.

Damn straight. We're so far north here that all our compasses do is rotate endlessly, so we had to learn alternative methods of navigating.

How much effort does it take to use a radio?

"Misfits to base. Misfits to base. Request assistance. We forgot to deploy our big ball of string. Over."

[GAsux]

There is an image of the Vietnam Vets being pot smoking baby killers, and the image of a brave and heroic Jessica Lynch and her rescuers was supposed to cover that up.

Do you even fathom the level of conspiracy you're too scared to fully name? You're beating around the bush and trying to imply that the stories released by the MEDIA were controlled by the DOD? Do you honestly believe that the DOD is able to control media outlets in that fashion?

Go back and check the events again my friend. Once again, you'll find that the MEDIA reported the stories of Lynch's suppossed heroics. While it's true that perhaps the DOD wasn't quick to refute the story, it's absurd to me that you think that story was a plant of some sort. Ever wonder why the initial story of the ambush didn't include any statements from official sources?

Do you for one solitary second beleive that it's possible that more than one media source caught wind of the story and, immediately understanding its story book potential particularly amongst it's readers employed shitty journalism to over exaggerate a story they couldn't defend for the sole sake of selling newspapers! In a capitalist, money driven society! God forbid! That could NEVER happen!

Do you think it possible that there could be wrong doing in this world that ISN'T the result of a calculated U.S. government plot?

As for your observation about the connection to Vietnam, I think in some ways you're probably correct, but in the wrong context. It's true that Vietnam Vets have historically been portrayed in a shitty light particularly in Hollywood. And I'm absolutely positive that there WAS a concerted effort to demonstrate that U.S. soldiers for the most part are a pretty professional, well trained bunch. That's why they imbeded journalists. To suggest that the DOD went so far as to control media outlets and publish fake stories is sheer paranoia on your part.

**EDIT** CHIMP, Thank you for making me laugh. Sometimes I forget and start to take you seriously.

[Zhukov]

"Some brave souls put their lives on the line to make this happen, loyal to a creed that they know that they'll never leave a fallen comrade." - General Vincent Brooks

Of course the media reported it, who the fuck else would? And how do you think the media got hold of the story? The media relies on US military information.

It was the military, however, that dramatised the situation. And if I am not mistaken, it was the military that filmed the whole evacuation, heroics and all.

The truth that is now emerging about what really happened to Private Lynch serves to underline the fact that imperialist wars are not just military affairs, but also ideological ones. While the actual fighting on the ground is taking place there is another equally important war at home to control public opinion.

I think there will be many more morale boosting stunts in the future. And many more morale boosting lies.

Even if the entire thing was somehow entirely concocted by the various 'independant' news outlets, do you think the military did not or would not have capitalized on the situation?

And I don't know what a DOD is, sorry. :/

[ranxer]

hey, wow, somebody noticed that i post similar things when i come here! hmm, maybe ive got only a few reasons to come here and post.. i don't hang out and post on every subject... im only interested in a few.. that not ok with you, fine keep putting me down for it.. whatever

drewkads

and you, posting every goddamn conspiracy theory in the world.

haha thats pretty funny :/ .. i wish i had the time to have fun with that idea.

abcdx

One thing that came out, and that most version of ths story ignore is the involvement of Mossad. The CIA confirmed this.

do you have a link?

thank you for your patience.. maybe this week ill comment or post on one other subject besides the destruction of americas future

[Drew Katsikas]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

". And if I am not mistaken, it was the military that filmed the whole evacuation, heroics and all. :/

Well, if I'm not mistaken, the miltary has more important things to do than film, which is why the mdeia is over there. Considering this, I believe the media was responsible for the blowing out of proportion.

And you Ranxer. Oooh, he called me drewkads! Holy shit! He's witty. Maybe I'll call him RANKsirr! LOLLOLOLOL. Or maybe, Suxor! Damn, I'm good.


You still haven't fought my argument. All you say is that you enjoy posting conspiracy theories. But don't you realize you fight to win support for your anti-american socialist cause, and you do a poor job, posting questionable theories and being a cliche using prick?

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[Abcdxxxx]

Originally Posted by ranxer

abcdx

do you have a link?

I'm sure you could find one. I think I posted about this before. Some Senator confirmed it during a press conference, and even stopped in the middle to go and call the CIA to make sure. Major media covered it at the time. As far as I know the story was burried rather then refuted.

[Abcdxxxx]

Originally Posted by DrewKatsikas

Well, if I'm not mistaken, the miltary has more important things to do than film, which is why the mdeia is over there.

I'm not in disagreement with you but thought you should know that our military actually spends huge amounts of money documenting battle. There are tons of photographers, and filmmakers in uniform. The military probably does more independent processing of film then anyone except the NFL who own their own labs...and might even have them beat

[Drew Katsikas]

Alrighty, I was just making an educated guess, but we still don't know who filmed it either. Even if it was the miltary, that proves nothing.