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Old Mar 8th, 2012, 12:43 PM       
I love how everybody was getting all upset about how churches have to provide abortions for their employees.

I guess people didn't stop to think what would happen to the health benefits for employees of christian scientist's.
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Old Mar 8th, 2012, 01:06 PM       
On one hand, that's what you get for working for the church. Waddya expect?

On the other hand, don't go and quit your job, especially if your insurance covers any "previous conditions".
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Old Mar 8th, 2012, 01:09 PM       
also, I'm pretty sure that the christian science church can offer them in their insurance if they want to.
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Old Mar 8th, 2012, 01:26 PM       
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also, I'm pretty sure that the christian science church can offer them in their insurance if they want to.
many christian scientists don't believe in using doctors and medicine even if you're dying.

probably the only christian scientist insurance benefits are prayers

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On one hand, that's what you get for working for the church. Waddya expect?
Good point, but a church organization might have a lot of normal jobs available -- especially through affiliate organizations like charities and through their missionary crap. Like, I'm sure they hire accountants. And you can be a catholic/christian and still practice abortion i guess.


is it ok for the church to fire someone if they are gay?
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Old Mar 8th, 2012, 01:48 PM       
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is it ok for the church to fire someone if they are gay?
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Old Mar 8th, 2012, 09:25 PM       
It has been proven that the church has the legal right to fire someone for being gay. Is it ok? I don't think anything the church does is moral or ethical, so I say no. That's the difference my opinion, versus the law or lack of.

I think that churches need to shut the fuck up until they pay taxes.
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 12:30 AM       
I say burn down the churches and kill the clergy.
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 02:10 AM       
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It has been proven that the church has the legal right to fire someone for being gay.
it has?
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 03:49 PM       
I hear about every month. I just googled something real quick and it's been to the supreme court.

http://lezgetreal.com/2012/02/nc-cat...g-his-partner/

I didn't read it, let me know if I have to google and read more of this gay ass shit.
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 03:56 PM       
Here's a more google reads if you want to look through them.

http://www.google.com/search?q=supre...ient=firefox-a
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 07:16 PM       
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Church members offered to help pay her insurance bills if she resigned, but she threatened to sue instead. She made good on her promise when the school fired her, claiming it had illegally discriminated against her because of her disability.
OH NOES THEY CAN FIRE GA PEOPLE

all the things in your link refer to one person who didn't even press charges and at the end they go, "AND ItS OK CAUSE SUPREME CURT SAYS SO" then you look at the top of the page and its a gay rights page
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 07:18 PM       
Well yeah, I don't feel like digging through supreme court papers. Who do you think is going to discuss gay rights? The church?
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 07:20 PM       
If you didn't find anything in the links then you win.
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 07:35 PM       
cool thans for arguing

if anything this proves how stupid the legal system in that whether or not a person should have their job kept open after 7 months while not giving any indications that youd be able to return to work has nothing to do with churches.
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 10:37 PM       
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And then there’s the fact that this has absolutely no bearing on his ability to do a fabulous job.
Haha. I hope that was on purpose.
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Old Mar 9th, 2012, 11:32 PM       
Why is it even a religous issue? I dont want to pay for other peoples condoms and shit through medical insurance which is already to expensive to get. Should we also pay for other extra shit people should be paying for themselves like tatoo removal and piercings? Hell maybe we should get reimbursed for gym fees since that also has to do with our bodies. Perhaps hair removal and or hair restoration as well.
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 01:49 AM       
well would you rather pay for somebody elses 5 cent condom or unwanted baby

but yea abortions are only a few hundred bucks its less than my traffic ticket
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 01:43 PM       
I don't understand the "I am a tax payer and I don't want to pay for you to have sex" argument. Isn't this about insurance companies being mandated to provide birth control? Where does it say that tax payer dollars would go to buy contraceptives?
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 01:44 PM       
I'd rather pay for tube ties.
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 01:45 PM       
It has nothing to do with tax payers, that's the yelling points from political parties.
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 02:01 PM       
Its not a tax thing its their insurance. People are upset because they are getting priced out of being able to have it and then they see this bullshit that makes it even more expensive.
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 03:14 PM       
It's preventative care. You use condoms and birth control pills to keep from developing more costly conditions later on, like cancer or children.

Also, people are upset because a bunch of talking heads have convinced them that they're paying college students to have sex (and they're not getting free amateur porn in exchange ).
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 03:20 PM       
i think when people talk about taxes they are thinking about obama care
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 04:36 PM       
Is Obama care open for business yet?
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 11:38 PM       
no but people are retarded so it doesnt really matter when its gonna happen
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