Editorials

The Geek Hierarchy
by: Protoclown

There are many different categories of Geekdom out there, many of which I can count myself a member. But with so many different varieties out there, how is one to know which is more socially acceptable than the other? How are geeks to know which other geeks to shun and which to look up to? It can all be a bit confusing, which is why I've put together this handy dandy "Geek Hierarchy" for you, illustrating which geekdoms are more socially acceptable than others. Hopefully, after reading this list, you'll know which geeks to tip your hat to and which to turn your nose up at, and you can thus avoid any embarrassing faux pas. Please note that this is based on years of scientific research and can in no way be factually incorrect. You've seen lists like this before, but never one this detailed, or right.


The Music Geek

Undisputed King of the Geek World, the Music Geek is without a doubt the most socially acceptable. For some reason you can be totally obsessed with going to music store after music store looking for that rare Australian-only single release by your third favorite indie band, and nobody's going to think you're weird or "eccentric" for doing so. This geekdom is the "coolest" because it does not repel women, and many of these geeks actually go out in public regularly to see bands perform, so they tend not to be socially awkward hermits.


The Film Geek

This is another geekdom that most people are comfortable with (unless you are Harry J. Knowles), because nearly everybody likes to watch movies. Even if you like movies so much that you own over 1,000 DVDs and you get so excited you hyper-ventilate when you talk about movie trivia, odds are you're still cooler than many of the other geeks on this list. Movies tend to be a social activity you can enjoy with friends, and true film geeks are always in the theater on opening night for whatever next big blockbuster is hitting the big screen (they will never wait for DVD), so at least it gets them out of the house. They can talk about the new Indiana Jones flick and most people will understand (and possibly even be interested) in what they're talking about. TV geeks (i.e. people who obsessively talk about "LOST") also fall into this category.


The Video Gamer

You've come a long way, baby. Video games went from being cool to nerdy and back around to cool again, what with the last several generations of game consoles with realistic graphics and ultra-violent games. These days everyone likes video games, from cro-mag frat boys to stuttering, sweaty middle-aged nerds who have never known the touch of a woman outside of "accidentally" brushing up against them at the mall, to thirteen-year-old girls who have communicated more words via cell phone texting than they have actually spoken aloud. Hell, even older generations are now getting into the video game craze with developers like Nintendo making titles that appeal to all ages. Video games have never been cooler.


The Sports Geek

If I had my druthers, these guys would be closer to the bottom of the list, but society apparently still thinks it's okay to paint your nipples blue and dress like a chicken, cow, or some other beast of the animal kingdom to show support for your favorite team. These are the guys who speak mostly in grunts and can't add together the change in their pocket, and yet somehow can rattle off scores and statistics of their favorite players like they actually know what numbers are used for. TV cameramen love to show these guys during televised sporting events, and somehow most people seem to overlook the fact that they look and act like idiots, just so long as they support the team. It's one of the great mysteries of life.


The Comic Geek

Hey, I'm not just ranking them this high on the list because I am one (hell, I fall into the next three categories too), but comic books have become far more acceptable over the past decade or so. It could be that the San Diego Comic-Con gets exponentially bigger every year and threatens to devour the planet like Galactus, or it could be the past decade of mostly decent comic book blockbuster movies that have put comic book characters back into the collective consciousness. Maybe it's mainstream shows like "Heroes" that have sparked up interest, or cool, mature books like "Preacher" and "Y – The Last Man" that have brought people into the fold. One way or the other, the Comic Book Guy on "The Simpsons" doesn't seem nearly as relevant as he used to. Sure, there are still plenty of guys like that in the fandom who threaten to give comic readers a bad name, but they make up a far smaller percentage than they used to.


The Sci-Fi Geek

Nearly neck-and-neck with the comic geek is the Sci-Fi Geek. At one time composed primarily of embarrassing Star Trek and Dr. Who fans, in the early 80s it suddenly became cool to like sci-fi after a little group of movies called the Star Wars trilogy came out. Fast forward twenty years and add some horribly stupid decisions by George Lucas, and suddenly it's an embarrassment to be a Star Wars fan but now considered cool to be into Star Trek and Dr. Who. With other great shows like Battlestar Galactica and Firefly, science fiction is no longer the sole province of male virgins, having attracted quite a few nerdy women as well. It's still really really dorky however to like Babylon 5 (and I do).


The Toy Geek

Most people still think that toys are just for kids, even though the toy companies realized a while ago that they can make far more money by producing unarticulated toys that amount to little more than plastic statues of the most obscure characters imaginable and market them to "collectors". Few outside other geekdoms can understand why a thirty-year-old man obsessively collects every cool looking classic Optimus Prime figure he can get his hands on, to fulfill some deep-seated need to honor his childhood hero, the toy of whom he asked for every single Christmas and birthday year after year, but somehow never received and had to make Grimlock the Autobot leader instead when he played with his Transformers because he was the highest ranking Autobot he owned, or at least the pushiest. So, um, yeah. Toy geeks.


The Role-Playing Geek

There's a certain type of role-playing geek that embarrasses most other role-playing geeks, and those types can be found actually playing inside stores that primarily sell role-playing games. When you walk into such a place and your glasses fog up from the miasma of hot B.O., when you hear the hooting, staccato laughter that sounds like a baboon being anally violated with a boulder, and when you notice a cloak draped over the chair behind someone excitedly standing to make a big production out of rolling dice, you will know you have encountered the type of geek I am talking about. They give all of us a bad name. I firmly believe (hope) that most tabletop RPG experiences mirror my own: a group of friends gets together to bullshit about various things and eat snacks, and oh, maybe roll a few dice along the way and not take things too seriously.


The War Reenactor

For some reason, there is some unknowable thing that compels certain people to get together, dress in old war uniforms, and stand on a grassy hill for hours, only to have all this waiting culminate in their falling over and playing dead. I have never understood this, and I never will. Everybody already knows how it's going to turn out, so I fail to see where the enjoyment comes from. What's really scary is when whole families get together and reenact a war (because I'm sure that's historically accurate). In the southern states I'm quite certain there are many Civil War Reenactors on the Rebel side who are hoping to pull out a surprise victory this time in their little fake war.


The Otaku

I enjoy some anime. I've even been to a few cons, which is one of the main reasons why I haven't actually bothered to check any new anime in the better part of a decade. Because of the Otaku. Also, because I haven't had the time, but that's not nearly so interesting. The anime con has already been dealt with in far more detail than I'm prepared to cover here. If you've been to an anime convention, you understand what it's like to be bowled over by the stench as soon as you set foot in the venue; you know all too well that you will see lots of rather abundantly large people trying to squeeze into skimpy, form-fitting costumes. You know the pain of hearing a guy with heaving, sweaty breasts and a shrill, girly voice who knows all of three Japanese words trying to speak like he's fluent in the language, and the guy who does not let his lumberjack beard deter him from dressing up like a sailor scout. You know how most of the cosplayers at such a con make the geeks at comic conventions look like the Cool Kids whose table in the cafeteria you dared not approach, even the guy with the paunchy belly wearing the homemade Metamorpho costume.


The MMORPG Player

A relatively new phenomenon, the Massive Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Gamer came on the scene and suddenly bumped the tabletop Dungeons & Dragons geeks up a few notches. I have never played one of these games, nor do I intend to, because I have seen too many people have their entire lives sucked away, packing on the pounds as their life becomes more and more sedentary, and the only news they have to share with me involves virtual quests. I have heard the hushed rumors of "poopsocking" and I know that someone out there must have tried it, sure as I know that any fucked up thing you can conceive of has been tried before and there's probably a pay site somewhere on the internet about it. At least D&D involves a group of friends getting together in person and actually socially interacting with one another, while MMORPGs have forty-year old guys getting into online arguments with fifth graders over how they're going to split their virtual treasure.


The Band Geek

Has there ever been an instance in all of history where a marching band did not sound like shit? I've never understood what compels some people who want to learn an instrument to dress like a goober and march around at sporting events. I mean, hell, I've got nothing against brass instruments at all, but in this context they sound like the sad, pitiful wails of the dead. Some people really get into this kind of thing. Maybe they had a choice between taking Band or Home Ec and they figured this was a better choice? Well, it's not.


The Ren Faire Geek

I've been to a Ren Faire and there's nothing inherently wrong with them, I suppose, but there's a certain type of person they attract who will embarrass everyone within a 50-yard radius of them, with their sad medieval garb and practiced "milady" faux British accent that suggests they probably act like this under normal circumstances. These people have a little too much trouble distinguishing reality from fantasy, yet still have no problem incorporating modern conveniences like indoor plumbing into their delusion. I've no problem with people who work at these Faires and have to get into "character" to do so, but there's a certain type of Faire-goer who simply takes things too far.


The LARPer

Even sadder than the MMORPGers are the LARPers, or Live-Action Role Players. These are the imagination-impaired geeks for whom sitting at a table and rolling dice just isn't enough. No, they're only satisfied if they can don a wizard robe over their pudgy frame and run around shouting "lightning bolt", throwing nerf darts at guys wearing orc masks that look like they were picked up at Wal-Mart. I think the worst part about LARPers is that many of them strike poses indicating that in their own delusional minds, they feel that they must somehow appear to be "badass". Unfortunately the message these poses actually seem to be conveying is "Please take my lunch money".


The Furry

One pastime that society will perhaps never understand is dressing up in animal suits and not going to work your shift at a theme park or sporting event, but rather getting together with a bunch of other people in animal suits and hanging out. Maybe there's sex involved, and maybe there isn't. I've known some furries, and hell, I've been friends with a few, but they're not the type who dress up in ridiculous costumes or think that their soul is actually a fox's trapped in the body of a human. Even they think the people who dress up like this are fucking crazy. And if the above picture is any indication, for some people dressing up in animal suits is apparently not enough, no, they have to strap on swords and go hunt orcs and goblins with their nerf arrows, combining two bottom-barrel geekdoms into something new that I'd rather not even think about.


The Fanfic Writer

The lowest form of geek, the Fanfic Writer saves the Enterprise, defeats Darth Vader, and beds Buffy the Vampire Slayer on a weekly basis. Many of them "uncover" the true homosexual relationship between two male characters, but the worst offenders are the ones who insert themselves into the story, living vicariously through their characters because they have absolutely no life whatsoever. Ubiquitous on the internet, they have no real social grouping outside of its "tubes", so there is no way to actually identify them in public. Anyone you meet could be a potential fan fiction writer. Perhaps even you could be a fanfic writer and not even know it! (If I had scary music this is where it would be playing).

So that pretty much sums up the geek list. Maybe you don't agree with all of it. Hell, I don't agree with all of it, but society makes the calls, not me. There's no shame in recognizing yourself on this list. After all, there's bound to be somebody on it worse off than you. Unless you're a fanfic writer, in which case, nothing I can say will console you, but maybe you could work me in as a villain and kill me off in your next story.

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Reader Comments

Fanboy
Mar 5th, 2008, 04:31 AM
...the hooting, staccato laughter that sounds like a baboon being anally violated with a boulder- oh God, how I know and hate that sound.

Great article. I agree with your order. As the article makes clear, the respective positions change with social trends. But it will be a cold day in Hell before I allow furries and fanfickers to become cool. Those guys are just sick, man.
Johnny Phone Calls
Mar 5th, 2008, 05:42 AM
what about message board nerds, pretty low on the scale right

and is the music nerd a picture of deadendz
mmmmm, free goo
Mar 5th, 2008, 06:29 AM
My friends and I stopped hanging out with a guy because he fell in with the furry crowd. I hesitate to call them a geek though, it is insulting to geeks. I actually rank them about equal with the trenchcoat guy who goes to those run down porno theaters. From everything I have heard from this guy I used to hang out with it is just an excuse for geeks to get laid. And yes, he combines it with LAARPing (which I also don't really get).

I do however fall into more than one of the other categories on the list. :P
Last of the Time Lords
Mar 5th, 2008, 06:37 AM
I count myself as a member of 3/16 of those groups (Comic Books, Sci-Fi, Tabletop RPGs) and all I can say is you got us dead to rights.

As for the other groups, I at least know some people who could be considered members of all of them, and that seems pretty accurate too.

And I know one man, let us call him Bob, who is a member of every single group on that list. If he is coming, flee for your life. You'll know he is on his way because of the way the smell makes your earwax melt.
From the Home of MST3K
Mar 5th, 2008, 08:31 AM
I'm surprised, yet pleased, that you dug deep into the depths to find something to shove under furry.

Thankfully most furries also have another sort of geekdom, and those individuals can find some happiness and fulfillment in life, however rarely.
Member
Mar 5th, 2008, 09:08 AM
my girlfriend is a somewhat fanfic writer, her stories are amazing and well written, look up mikalockheart on www.fanfiction.net and you'll see what i mean. as for me, i'm a comic book and videogame geek
GoldMember
Mar 5th, 2008, 09:19 AM
Good list, I'm not really a geek about anything, just likes me some good ol' video games sometimes.
About the furries, I mean, I like the antro sorta style some of their art has, but that's all really, I mean, dressing up like that? That is sorta weird...
More bordering on the insane really.
Great article still man.
Member
Mar 5th, 2008, 09:28 AM
<--Music geek, Video gamer geek, and MMORPG geek. Very accurate list. GJ
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 09:39 AM
I admit it, I was a Civil War reenactor for a short time when I was stationed in South Carolina. The majority are perfectly normal, intelligent people. But you are right, Protoclown, there are a disturbingly large number of them, especially among the southerners, who would love nothing more than to load up some live ammo and refight the war. And yes, there were several instances of southern units changing the outcome of battles so that they won. After hearing spectators laugh and say "this is a fucking joke" for about the third time, I called it quits.

By the way, they call themselves "Living Historians", which is hilarious on so many levels!
drifting in the void
Mar 5th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Let´s see...Videogame-Geek and Ex-MMORPG. But since when are Video Games regarded as cool? Ah wait...in the U.S. they are for sure.
Over here in Germany Videogames and Videogamers tend to be stigmatized...because we are all bad people who are out to hurt other people and train for doing so with Videogames...yeah, sure. And as far as I have experienced...most Women don´t like it. :D
Forum
Mar 5th, 2008, 10:34 AM
So the sports geeks can rattle of stats AND statistics? That's pretty amazing, considering that they're the same fucking thing. Why, next you'll tell us that the film geek can tell you about many films and also movies.
Retardedly Handsome
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:25 AM
I was in band, but I was in the Drumline. This could actually be worse though because we developed this sort or elitist idea about ourselves and declared independence from the band. And I'll always have stories that start with "This one time at band camp..."
¿
Mar 5th, 2008, 12:14 PM
oof card games dont even make the list. Haha take that Yugi!
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 12:50 PM
Nowadays, I'm just a film geek, but in the past I've been:
Video Gamer
Comic Geek (I only read Jonah Hex these days, so I don't think I still count here)
Sci-Fi Geek
Band Geek
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Nice list. The lowest I've ever been on this list is MMORPG player and that was back in the day when Ultima Online came out, so it was even less cool than it is now. Other than that I'm also a music/film/comic/sci-fi/RPG geek and videogamer. I don't think I count as Otaku even though I enjoy anime and manga since I
1)shower regularly
2)never cosplayed

I'd also like to propose rising Otakus a bit higher, or alternatively lowering the comic geek status. From what I've seen on all kinds of cons the otaku geekdom tends to have more female members than the comic geekdom. And we all know that having an uterus automatically makes you cool.
Jason's a Furry! Run!
Mar 5th, 2008, 01:36 PM
Hey, awesome list. I totally agree with the top few (you really can't make fun of the music geeks), and I'm brought small vestiges of happiness upon seeing film geek up there as well. Also, love the description for the fan fic writers; I write those things and I was still laughing my ass off.

But come one, the furry rank is too low. We deserve to at least be above the Ren Faire geeks. We're nice guys, really (and not all of us dress up in full fursuit). Of course, that's just me defending my geek-rank. Apart from that, excellent list.
Spiteful Jerk
Mar 5th, 2008, 01:55 PM
Lore Sjöberg actually did a flow chart called "the Geek Hierarchy" on the Brunching Shuttlecocks.

Harry Knowles looks like an Irish Sasquatch.

MMOs aren't that bad, really. You just gotta find one that's not populated entirely by awful jackasses.

Oh! I just remembered a furry I went to college with! He was the type of guy who threw around terms like "fursecution" without a hint of irony. He seriously claimed I was as bad as the Nazis because I thought he was ridiculous for thinking he's an anthropomorphic wolf. Also, he was really greasy and squint-eyed and had a really greasy, quint-eyed, fat girlfriend. I'm sure they painted themselves up like wolf-people and had greasy, squint-eyed, probably paint-smeared sex. Ugh.
MY NEW HERO IS U.S
Mar 5th, 2008, 02:06 PM
what no bike geeks??? I'm offended
Ancient Mariner
Mar 5th, 2008, 02:28 PM
TOP TWO, MOTHERFUCKERS

BOW BEFORE ME!
Pickled Patriarch
Mar 5th, 2008, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bikegeek View Post
what no bike geeks??? I'm offended
Heheh, yeah I said he also needed to add in the fitness/health geeks who know the EXACT calorie count of every piece of food they eat and wouldn't dare go over their daily intake allowance.

Willie is right too, message board/internet geeks would be another good addition.

I also think knitting/craft geeks should be on there, or perhaps just art geeks to be more all-encompassing.
Otaku Hero Of Nowhere
Mar 5th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Let's see my Geekdoms are...

Well, I'm an Otaku first and foremost. One with good hygene, that doesn't dress like a character that I should never dress as, but an Otaku none the less!

I'm also a Movie Geek, but I'm the "elitist" kind of movie-geek that doesn't like the same movies as everyone else.

I'm a definite Comic Geek, but I never really got into "Superhero Comics". I read pretty much everything else.

I tried to get into Table-Top RPGs but my friends just weren't into it. So, I had nobody to play with. (BTW you forgot Card-Game RPGs)

And, (are you ready for this) I am, and I will freely admit it, one of those dreaded Fan-Fiction Writers you mentioned! In fact, here's my profile, which reveals a whole lot of other geeky interests. I do NOT write "self-inserts" however. That, would just be a little too far into the abyss.

BTW Furries may be geeky now, but what about in the future after they perfect genetic engineering (allowing them to actually become anthropomorphic animals!)?
Member
Mar 5th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Lets see here. Looks like I fall under Video Gamer, Table-top geek, and MMORPG. And I don't give a damn how socially acceptable it is.
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Great list, agree for the most part.

Music geeks definitely get off easy. I suppose I fall into the Video Game geek category. I enjoy films, comics, and sci-fi, but on a more casual level.

The only disagreement I have is that you ranked MMO players too low, and Tabletop RPG players too high. If you are talking with people, and you say "I play WoW," you are going to get off much easier than if you say "I play DnD."
Otaku Hero Of Nowhere
Mar 5th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Hey, what about "Tech Geeks"?

You know, the guys that go nuts over the latest powerful computer hardware (whether they have any use for it or not) and sometimes even ancient obsolete computers (for the "collector's value).
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 03:01 PM
I don't think "Internet/message board geek" works because usually they fall into one of the other geek categories and like to talk about it. Unless they are the people that frequent 4chan or YTMND or something.

Tech geeks would work.
Otaku Hero Of Nowhere
Mar 5th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Let's see...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mockery
Heheh, yeah I said he also needed to add in the fitness/health geeks who know the EXACT calorie count of every piece of food they eat and wouldn't dare go over their daily intake allowance.

Willie is right too, message board/internet geeks would be another good addition.

I also think knitting/craft geeks should be on there, or perhaps just art geeks to be more all-encompassing.
Agreed, and I mentioned "Tech Geeks" and "RPG Card Game Player". I should also mention "Nostalgia Geeks" and those weirdos that idolize a particular historical figure (like Elvis, Patton, etc.) to an insane obsession.

Say Protoclown, is there any chance of a "Part II", perhaps?
Johnny Phone Calls
Mar 5th, 2008, 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by executioneer View Post
is the music nerd a picture of deadendz
is it
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 04:17 PM
Let us see, I fall under video game geek, movie and TV geek and tabletop geek. As for Orks, I find a bolter will fix them easy.
after enough bourbon ...
Mar 5th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Does the fanfic geek have a bag over his/her head for our protection, or theirs?

I myself have been a member of RPG, Band, SciFi and VideoGame geek clubs. Once, I was a character in a LARPG - my God, what was I thinking?
Ms. Sorghum Molasses '82
Mar 5th, 2008, 04:36 PM
NOTHING is lower than a furry... NOTHING!
Hey! I posted something!
Mar 5th, 2008, 04:37 PM
OMG....I am bottom the barrel...My profile says FANFIC... but to clarify, I only read it. I haven't written anything since I was a teenager. in all other catagories I either turn my nose up or I'm a dabbler *is depressed*
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 04:44 PM
Sports Geek should be at the top of the list mostly because they will fight you for cheering for the other team, and travel in packs.

Respect should be given to the Civil War bunch. A good buddy of mine in college was WAY into this. I've never seen anyone so dedicated to researching anything... and at least it's of actual events. I went to one of these things and learned that 1)most of these guys strive for authenticity, not in uniform, but in the outcome as well 2) most have multiple uniforms and will vary which side they are one 3) I've never seen so much booze consumed in my life!! So at least its a social, moonshine drinking affair.
Member
Mar 5th, 2008, 04:52 PM
damn I am all over the place on that list, the only ones I am not are war reinacter, band, sports, mmorpg, film, outaku and larper, meaning I am on the very top and bottom of the list XD
Built in the 80s
Mar 5th, 2008, 05:40 PM
Toy Geek and a Movie Geek and proud! (On the Internet but not particularly in real life).

Sport Geek - i can't help but think of that Seinfeld episode.
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 07:31 PM
Lets see I'm music and video game geek I read a couple of comics but nothing recently.
Hi-HyperTechno-Journalist
Mar 5th, 2008, 08:21 PM
its harsh being arolleplayer geek, but now its ok to be a nerd, because now everyone knows the nerd withthe highest iq qill likely be the one with the most money and likely gett the most gold diggers in the future.
Mr. everywhere
Mar 5th, 2008, 09:47 PM
Quote:
I don't think I count as Otaku even though I enjoy anime and manga since I
1)shower regularly
2)never cosplayed
me too. but ive cross dressed. does that count?
Mr. everywhere
Mar 5th, 2008, 09:56 PM
also how about the geek who interrupts your conversation midway just to say something that makes the whole thing extremely awkward? i know someone like that. he would do it every single time i was talking with a friend
per sempre vigilante
Mar 5th, 2008, 10:01 PM
*eye shifts*
Mr. everywhere
Mar 5th, 2008, 10:16 PM
who u shifting your eyes at, punk?
bad case of the dead
Mar 5th, 2008, 10:39 PM
hell yeah babylon 5
Forum Virgin
Mar 5th, 2008, 10:53 PM
I second tech geeks.

Also, you forgot car geeks and gun geeks. You know the ones...
Apprentice Pickle
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:24 PM
Fan art geeks deserve the bottom.
Ultimate Buzzkill
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:43 PM
A major problem with this article is that the word "cool" is used too much in describing geeks. That's the point: excessive enthusiasm bordering on Asperger's syndrome isn't cool. There's a line crossed when one attempts to base most (or any, if at all) social interactions on minutia of a specialized topic (and it can be ANY topic/interest). In fact, were I a psychiatrist, I'd want to classify geeks as an Autism Spectrum Disorder.
Getting my perv on
Mar 6th, 2008, 12:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marthaeus Autolykos View Post
A major problem with this article is that the word "cool" is used too much in describing geeks. That's the point: excessive enthusiasm bordering on Asperger's syndrome isn't cool. There's a line crossed when one attempts to base most (or any, if at all) social interactions on minutia of a specialized topic (and it can be ANY topic/interest). In fact, were I a psychiatrist, I'd want to classify geeks as an Autism Spectrum Disorder.
Ah, the lowest one yet. "7h3 £337 933|{"
Forum Virgin
Mar 6th, 2008, 12:47 AM
Mmk... just so you know, LARPing is like... the greatest fun ever. And I fall into 5 of these categories, so I feel pretty proud of myself. Lightning Bolt!
Not Another Whipping Boy
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:12 AM
What is really sad is when the RenFair and LARPers try to participate in martial arts. Most of them are so commited to their fantasy that they honestly can't be made to understand that "spells" are not an accepted part of effective martial arts. I have seen many a good sparring session ruined by LARPers who believe themselves to be expert combatents, but can't actually do anything besides yell out the names of their spells, deluding themselves into believing that they might actually work in real life.
Not Another Whipping Boy
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:13 AM
Also could someone tell me the diffrence between "geeks" ""nerds" and "dorks."
The Goddamned Batman
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Despotofks View Post
So the sports geeks can rattle of stats AND statistics? That's pretty amazing, considering that they're the same fucking thing. Why, next you'll tell us that the film geek can tell you about many films and also movies.
I know it can be a soul-crushing thing to discover that your hero isn't perfect, but I in fact do make mistakes from time to time.

And Willie, no that isn't deadendz...haha. That's some guy from the Flaming Lips, I think. I just found in on a google search.
Forum Virgin
Mar 6th, 2008, 04:49 AM
I would call myself a living historian, in that I study history and am not yet dead. I think you missed a geek-type, one that I proudly cling to. Board game geeks! I know you covered table top RPGs, but you're missing settlers of catan, carcassonne, axis and allies, hell even warhammer 40k and blood bowl! Alas, we are a dying breed, perhaps it is fitting to be left out.
Smooth Operator
Mar 6th, 2008, 05:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Protoclown View Post
I know it can be a soul-crushing thing to discover that your hero isn't perfect, but I in fact do make mistakes from time to time.

And Willie, no that isn't deadendz...haha. That's some guy from the Flaming Lips, I think. I just found in on a google search.
Why, I think this is a great example of a group you left off the list.

The "holier-than-thou, has to point out the mistakes of others to make up for their own pathetic exsistence" geek.
Mucho Porro
Mar 6th, 2008, 07:05 AM
Carnivore Is God you're a metal geek
Forum Virgin
Mar 6th, 2008, 10:17 AM
Ah yes, the Furry Geeks being nearly the bottom rung of the ladder. I know all to well the feeling, being a "recovering" furry myself. I was very fortunate, though to know several "normal" furries as my first friends in the fandom...normal meaning they didn't think themselves as animals trapped in human bodies.

I was also a band geek, but dressing like a goober and marching about wasn't why I joined...come to think of it, I didn't understand why I stayed. O.o But I still would think of Otaku as lower than band geeks, cause at least band geeks have better stories to tell. "And this one time at band camp..."
Forum Virgin
Mar 6th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Hm, 3/16 isn't too bad. There area where I live in is painfully bland and 'normal', so there really aren't a lot of Ren fairs, or major sporting events. As I'm not in the US either, there really aren't too many history buffs interested in pretending to be in a civil war from a long time ago, where they lost much of their population and that they ultimately lost (badly).

Was always indifferent to furries, pretty much ignored them at the conventions.
Suicidal Chipmunk
Mar 6th, 2008, 05:11 PM
I fall under the video game geek grouping. I even hope to get into game design as a professional career. I'm also sort of an MMORPG geek, but i don't play, like, compulsively. I'm one of the MMO geeks that has REAL friends, you know?
Forum Virgin
Mar 6th, 2008, 05:26 PM
I dunno man, I have to agree with Butters on the whole WOW geeks getting off easier than Role-players thing; if only marginally.

What about actual dictionary-definition geeks?: The sad carnies who bite off the heads of small animals for the amusement of fair-goers. I'd put them between MMOnerds and Band Kids myself.
Forum
Mar 6th, 2008, 07:55 PM
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I know it can be a soul-crushing thing to discover that your hero isn't perfect, but I in fact do make mistakes from time to time.
I know my hero isn't perfect, but I just know that Patrick Swayze will come through this pancreatic cancer think ok.

... as for you Protoclown? You sir are a disappointment. You have the intelligence, you have the voice, you just can't help constantly taking a shit on all of that by throwing out one thing that fucks up each of your articles. It's like playing the most disappointing game of Where's Waldo since the Cancer-Ward edition came out.
Does the Freddy
Mar 6th, 2008, 07:55 PM
I gotta get a kick out of how many of you (and by you I mean us, I did it too)tried to justify your way out of some of those categories, fuck it, we're geeks. "Well I play DnD, but only once a month" You're there, this isn't our hierarchy and society is an asshole. Not the fun, "haha watch me punch a baby" type of asshole either, the kind of asshole retcons 20 years of Spider-Man because he can't handle divorce.
Otaku Hero Of Nowhere
Mar 6th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Amen, Wyldflame, Amen!

I am Geek! Hear me Roar!
No Future Guy
Mar 7th, 2008, 12:18 AM
I remember I used to LARP. When I was 5.
Is a thin donkey
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:07 AM
I'm definitely a music and video game geek, while my best friend falls into film geek territory.
The Goddamned Batman
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:38 AM
Thanks for the comments, guys. It's refreshing to see so many geeks who are capable of making fun of themselves, or at least having a sense of humor about it when other people do.

I myself fall into many of these categories: music, movies, video games, comics, sci-fi, role-playing games, and toys, so I'm definitely taking plenty of shots at myself here too.

Also, I should say that when I was searching for pics and I found that pic of the furry LARPers, I couldn't stop laughing for a good three minutes.

saturnknight: No offense to your girlfriend, but there will be no reading of fan fiction here. Not on my watch.

Magic Flyin' Lemur: Back in college one of my friends lived on a dorm hall with a furry who apparently wrote these bizarre stories about himself being attacked and raped by werewolves, which included sharp claws being thrust into his asshole. Apparently the guys on the hall would get on his computer and read these crazy stories when he was gone.

Bikegeek/Mockery: Yeah, I suppose I could have included fitness geeks. Hell, there's a lot of other types I probably could have added if I'd wanted to, but you gotta draw the line somewhere.

Tetsu Deinoychus: I could've included card game geeks but I figure they're close enough to the RPG geeks there wasn't really any point in distinguishing them with their own separate entry.

Butters: You may have a point, but most people I've talked to have considered MMORPG players lower on the totem pole because they're not really being social like table-top gamers. True, many gamers are socially retarded, but at least they're trying.

Marthaeus Autolykos
: So I can't help but notice that you like to over analyze things...

Beatpole: Hell, I think I would pay money to see that shit. Sounds like hilarious entertainment.

KillerMcGee: You have a point, and I do play board games with my friends, but I think I would classify those more in the "RPG" type of category due to the similarities in subject matter, and I would consider things like Balderdash (my favorite board game) to be in a separate "board game" category. Still, I don't think there's enough of a following to really be considered a social sub group worth mentioning.

Despotofks: Do you have a man-crush on me or something? I "disappointed" you because I make a few typos and mistakes? I didn't know you held me on such a pedestal.
Jason's a Furry! Run!
Mar 7th, 2008, 03:02 AM
Now that I think about it, I've never even seen a genuine Ren Faire, or even heard about one occuring somewhere (anywhere). Last time I even saw the concept come up was in an episode of Home Movies way back when; I honestly didn't know they were still going on.

And yeah, should you di another list, the fitness geek, card game geeks (I remember Pokemon...), and tech geek (that one should be high on the list, if only because he can save our souls when our laptops fail. I speak out of personal expierence on that count)
Member
Mar 7th, 2008, 04:40 AM
I mostly agree except I would move fanfic writers up about four ranks. Actually, the ones you described (people who put themselves/their friends into stories) would knock them back down a little.
Forum Virgin
Mar 7th, 2008, 05:01 AM
I would put the LARPer above the The MMORPG Player at least in LARP its an excuse to get to get drunk and hit people over the head with latex weapons
Forum
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:34 AM
Sure Protoclown, you win. You are the Jodie Foster to my John W. Hinckley Jr. I point out your mistakes because of a man-crush. I'm not going to say that I point out your mistakes to try and help you realize you've made them so, in the future, you'll do better. It's made obvious by the fact that you get defensive and resort to sophomoric teasing when faced with what could be construed as constructive criticism that to do so would be of no help. No, I point out your mistakes because they piss me off. They piss me off because, just like most of the bloggers who have developed an angry rant-like style to their writing since Maddox came out, you suck at it. I've got to think that my reactions to your writing are the same ones you get when you're watching a zombie flick too terrible to be good but eithr too good to be funny-bad or too high budget to be funny-bad. It's easy, people get the angriest when you fuck up their favorite style.
Big Red Cat
Mar 7th, 2008, 11:54 AM
A little "constructive criticism" for you, Despotofks:

Next time you offer your "constructive criticism," and want it to be construed as such, try to NOT put it in the form of a snide comment.
Forum
Mar 7th, 2008, 12:44 PM
You are right about that Roggs.
Freelance Product Tester
Mar 7th, 2008, 06:47 PM
Furries are above no one.
The Goddamned Batman
Mar 7th, 2008, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Despotofks View Post
Sure Protoclown, you win. You are the Jodie Foster to my John W. Hinckley Jr. I point out your mistakes because of a man-crush. I'm not going to say that I point out your mistakes to try and help you realize you've made them so, in the future, you'll do better. It's made obvious by the fact that you get defensive and resort to sophomoric teasing when faced with what could be construed as constructive criticism that to do so would be of no help. No, I point out your mistakes because they piss me off. They piss me off because, just like most of the bloggers who have developed an angry rant-like style to their writing since Maddox came out, you suck at it. I've got to think that my reactions to your writing are the same ones you get when you're watching a zombie flick too terrible to be good but eithr too good to be funny-bad or too high budget to be funny-bad. It's easy, people get the angriest when you fuck up their favorite style.
I appreciate when people point out my mistakes, so that I can correct them. I don't appreciate people being dicks about it. You don't have to like my writing (that I get paid for, by the way), but it's a little masochistic, don't you think, if you hate it so much yet apparently keep returning to read more of it.
Forum
Mar 7th, 2008, 11:50 PM
I will try not to be such a dick about it in the future then.
No Future Guy
Mar 7th, 2008, 11:58 PM
Dix.
Kitsune
Mar 8th, 2008, 05:32 AM
I'm a furry who's into games and music, just a little dabbling in anime.

And I really don't care what people think of me.
Can't even THINK straight
Mar 8th, 2008, 11:02 AM
Furry here, I can explain it all.

Imagine you are a gay man, but you will not ever admit it or even touch gay porn. Because it is so gay. So you dress up as an animal and jerk off to shitty furry porn because dog cock is not like human cock... Right? It's not gay right? Animals do not count! SERIOUSLY!

Ah fuck it, furries ARE messed up.

If you need me I'll be in my closet watching the lion king.
The Geminate
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:14 AM
I found this so-called "Geek Hierarchy" editorial sorely lacking. I mean how can I be a god and the devil at the same time? Yes I am The Geminate but never mind about that. There are literally thousands of categories and tens of thousands of levels and you would need a massive flow chart to encompass it all. I am going to sulk about this all day now...thanks a lot.
Bane of Zombies
Mar 9th, 2008, 03:45 PM
I'm joining an RPG group near Cleveland soon, if anyone would like to join us just let me know.


And one more thing...no furries allowed. Ever. They creep me out
Hi-HyperTechno-Journalist
Mar 10th, 2008, 10:29 PM
Quote:
Bane of Zombies
Mar 9th, 2008, 10:45 AM
I'm joining an RPG group near Cleveland soon, if anyone would like to join us just let me know.


And one more thing...no furries allowed. Ever. They creep me out
i once knew a chick who turned out to be a secret furry, but not the kind that aactively goes out for the animals, the kind who wants to be one and wants you to want her for it. needless to say, she was pretty hot ass a catchick and i was ashamed.
Member
Mar 11th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Some folks say there's nothing lower than the furry geek. I beg to differ. Indeed, the lowest form of geek is the one who feels the need to put down other geeks in order to make themselves feel better.

It's an old story, but I'll tell it again: I once had the fortunate opportunity to have dinner with Trace Beaulieu (Crow T. Robot/Dr. Clayton Forrester of MST3K fame), who was Guest of Honor at a furry convention some years ago. And we asked him what he thought of furries and the idiotic inter-geek snarkery that frequently gets directed at them. Not surprisingly, he said he was disappointed that it goes on. I'm guessing maybe he got enough flak for being a sci-fi fan growing up in Minnesota that he knows what it feels like, so was sad to see sci-fi geeks doing it to others.

Beaulieu's comments were echoed more recently by Mark Evanier, who noted furry fandom "has endured a fair amount of mocking in the past, often from folks who oughta know better, given how their own interests have prompted ridicule from others."

Now, it's not that furries can't take a joke or anything. It's just that the folks who continually put down furries as a way of building themselves up don't seem to realize they aren't all that funny after we've heard it the first hundred times.

In summary, being a geek is cool. Being a geek putting down other geeks is really just lame. Or, as Xeni Jardin of Boing Boing says: "Yay for eccentric humans doing their own thing no matter what fun-crushers may say!"
Johnny Phone Calls
Mar 11th, 2008, 04:50 PM
man it's not even a type of being a geek, it's more of a sexual orientation

like being an anime fan = pedophilia
PHREAKBEAT 6
Mar 11th, 2008, 05:39 PM
i personally have the heads of three yiffers mounted above my fireplace.
Member
Mar 11th, 2008, 05:45 PM
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i personally have the heads of three yiffers mounted above my fireplace.
Did you catch them out in the woods digging holes and eating berries?