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[QUOTE=kahljorn;402007]You don't trust "Nature's own medicines"? Where do you think modern day medicine comes from? Where do you think they get the medicine FROM? The source? Almost all medicines come from substances that are within plants, and sometimes animals. Do you think they just get medicine from their assholes or something? The chemicals come from SOMEWHERE(because for some reason in this magical realm we can't suddenly summon them from nowhere) and that somewhere just so happens to be plants 80% of the time.

How do you think they treated illness before modern medicine?
Let me put it to you in a very blunt way, at least 80% of the medicines that are currently on the market are derived from plant sources. Plants actually have chemicals and 'Medicines' inside of them. Did you know morphine comes from a plant? How about penicillin(it grows on a plant, anyhow)? :lol you're so stupid it makes me laugh. Seriously do some research or something and you'll find that herbs actually have chemicals inside of them that are extremely similar to the chemicals used by modern day medicine. I could probably sit here and name shit that modern medicine has derived from plant sources, and I'm sure other people could weigh in a few things as well.
Also, the basic knowledge of all medical science comes from knowledge obtained from experiments with Plants and herbal medicines that was used for thousands of years, and recently carried over to Modern day medicine. Essentially what I'm saying is that most of our current medical knowledge is derived from past medical knowledge. Imagine that idea, huh?
Also every civilized country in the world used to use the medical system I'm talking about(most of them still do). Including the greeks, romans, chinese, indian, egyptian, native american, etc. etc. 
By the way, the only thing our medicinal system has really "Won" against is infections, and that was derived from a plant source.

Plants have a very real effect, if you don't believe me try smoking pot or eatting a Datura plant(how about peyote or any of the other psychoactive plants?), you'll believe me after that. [u]It's not meant to be used as a cure all[/u], [i]just like how taking insulin everyday for the rest of your life isn't going to cure you of diabetes.[/i] It's supposed to help you be HEALTHIER, and/or HEALTHY. 
The herb I suggested has been used for literally THOUSANDS of years to treat diabetes, and you trust something that has been used for what, 50? I'm not suggesting you stop taking your insulin, rather that you try taking this "Herb" and see what type of physical effects it has on your blood sugar level. I'm not telling you to believe blindly, rather that you try it for yourself. If you find a decent indian/herbal store it'd probably cost you like 5 dollars at most for a bottle of them. You pay 20-50 dollars for insulin, right? Maybe more?

And what the fuck, why would your diabetes nurse know about it?  You think because they are nurses and doctors they know everything? [b]If doctors knew everything, you dirty cocksucker, you wouldn't have diabetes.[/b] 
Why don't you ask your doctor, but don't stop there, ask alot of doctors(because contrary to popular belief doctors actually have differing opinions). Then ask them about herbal medicine. I can already hear alot of their responses because I've already been through this process. That's right, I know and you assume.

As a final bit of knowledge, herbs are generally NOT AS STRONG as modern medicine, and thus, not as severe. This is probably where your idea that it doesn't work comes from. Herbs aren't supposed to cure you, neither is moder medicine. Draw some conclusions from that statement, because I don't feel like laying out the obvious right now.
I will say one thing though, everything you put into your body has an effect on your body, because it is your body's job to take substances from what you eat and put them into your body. That's how it sustains itself. So what happens when you stick in herbs that have chemicals in them? what about modern medicine?

Anyway, that's about all I wanted to weigh in. I was going to find government research sites but I don't really care anymore. I just hope you die a horrible diabetic death, maybe one where you lose all your limbs or something. No I'm just kidding that's horrible but I at least hope you're humbled in a painful way.[/QUOTE]

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Apr 15th, 2006 01:11 AM

DeadKennedys

The thing worse than being diabetic is being a diabetic Finn.

Apr 13th, 2006 08:06 AM

RaNkeri

Foshizzle!! I got myself a new bloodsugarmeter yesterday

and it fuckin' kicks ass! My old one was just a normal meter, which allowed you to measure your bloodsugar level and had a memory for 3 months. But the new doesn't only save the data, but also turns them into craphical display, which shows the bloodsugars as a diagram.

That is one freakin' awesome meter I tell ya, beats the crap out of the previous ones, although it is a bit larger than the meter I used to have before this

Apr 12th, 2006 04:19 PM

kahljorn

It's not a fruit, it's an herb. Don't they teach the difference between fruits, vegetables and other plants in like first grade or something? "This is a tree, they make fruit for us to eat! This is a rock, you can trip on them."

Apr 12th, 2006 08:45 AM

Chojin

i don't know, it was a rankeri thread

Apr 12th, 2006 03:58 AM

RaNkeri

Quote:

Originally Posted by GADZOOKS

Rankeri, did the movie Charlie and the Choclate Factory give you nightmares for all the wrong reasons?

I haven't seen the movie D:. I have read the book instead, it was great.

And kahljorn, you're still here? Shouldn't you go buy those magic fruits that cure diabetes? I mean, people do not need insulin when they have fenugreek, right?

And damn, if I just would've let kahljorn be a retard and ignore him, this thread wouldn't be so gay

Fuck me!

Apr 12th, 2006 03:34 AM

kahljorn

"I just have to pick up on that retard"

Somebody's gotta do it, retards get lonely too. Just wear protection because I don't know if it's hereditary. Who would let two retards fuck to find out? Too dangerous.

Apr 12th, 2006 03:29 AM

GADZOOKS

Rankeri, did the movie Charlie and the Choclate Factory give you nightmares for all the wrong reasons?

Apr 12th, 2006 03:15 AM

Seven Force

I'm gonna fucking find you, kidnap you, and inject you full of pure, uncut, granulated sugar if you keep this shit up.

Apr 12th, 2006 02:49 AM

RaNkeri

Quote:

Originally Posted by GADZOOKS

Insults and Insulin: The RaNkeri Story.

Well, what can I do? I just have to pick up on that retard

Although thanks to him, I've been able to laugh a lot more.
He's so stupid it makes me laugh

Quote:

If all of you diabetics joined forces, you could become the League of Diabetic Superheroes!
Like

Blood-Test Man
Sugar Man
Insulin Man (with extra 'injector' attack)
Dr. Liver
Etc.

Stupid sidenote: Niece of the guy who invented insulin is my neighbour.

Can I be insulin man?

Apr 12th, 2006 01:10 AM

Johnny Couth

I'm working on it though, expanding my social network.

My 8th grade science teacher was diabetic, and a friend of mine put a sugar cube in her coffee not knowing that was a no-no, and my teacher had a hissy fit about how our ignorance would get someone killed one day.

Apr 12th, 2006 01:06 AM

Sethomas

Too bad you've never met anyone associated with the invention of funny.

Apr 12th, 2006 12:48 AM

Johnny Couth

Quote:

Originally Posted by VolCanon

I knew a guy that had met a guy who was the son of the guy that invented pop ups.

Apr 11th, 2006 11:08 PM

Rongi

unless that person is a pancreas

Apr 11th, 2006 10:19 PM

executioneer

man nobody "invented" insulin

Apr 11th, 2006 09:42 PM

VolCanon

Apr 11th, 2006 05:44 PM

GADZOOKS

Insults and Insulin: The RaNkeri Story.

Apr 11th, 2006 05:28 PM

kahljorn

I'm going to respond some more here because I'm bored.

"people just trust more on medicines made by pharmacists, not on products done by some-random-people-of-some-random-indian-tribe "

This part was the funniest. We've already made that mistake 500 years ago when america was "Discovered", my friend. We don't need to do it again.
By the way do you know why Christopher Columbus was looking to find a short path to india?
Herbs and spices. Shazam.

"but it's pretty easy to "know alot from diabetes" by just posting articles"
Yea it is, pretty sad that I know more than you about it when all you have to do is type Diabetes into a search engine. All in all, it's pretty easy to learn/know anything. There's books about everything, and I can't think of very many people who learn things without referance(hence places like libraries and bookstores). That's what the education system is based on. The fact of the matter is I make an effort to learn, and you stay stupid. There's at least some distinction there.

"I only care about taking care of my diabetes and how to keep my bloodsugar ratings low. "
That's what fenugreek does, dumbass.

"I reall doubt that your girlfriend has survived only because of some herbs and your advices. "

If you paid attention to anything I said or knew anything about herbal medicine and complimentary medicine you'd know that I was suggesting using Fenugreek as a supplement, not as a cure all. As I mentioned before, there is no cure all, only sustanance.
What I was saying is basically this: KEEP USING YOUR INSULIN BECAUSE IT KEEPS YOU ALIVE(hence all my talk of sustanance) USE FENUGREEK AS A SUPPLEMENT LIKE A VITAMIN OR SOMETHING OKAY DUMMY FACE? It HELPS to keep your body healthy, it doesn't cure you of all illnesses.
For your information, my girlfriend takes insulin twice a day. Also it wasn't my advice, it's a fucking herb. i didn't create it. We discovered that it's good for diabetics together, and I was just passing on the information to you like she would do if she were having a conversation with you.

Apr 11th, 2006 12:39 PM

MetalMilitia

this is a snoozefest

Apr 11th, 2006 09:29 AM

RaNkeri

lol, who is that dude?

Apr 11th, 2006 09:07 AM

DeadKennedys

http://youknowihavediabetes.ytmnd.com/

Apr 11th, 2006 02:31 AM

WhiteRat

I never knew that Diabetes related conversation could turn out to be so enthralling.

Apr 11th, 2006 12:51 AM

RaNkeri

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skulhedface

I know people with diabetes and they all smell like ham.

true!

Especially older people

Apr 10th, 2006 09:04 PM

kahljorn

man those last posts of his deserve a blooper reel.

Apr 10th, 2006 08:26 PM

Terra

Double post removed :/

Apr 10th, 2006 07:51 PM

Terra

Pigs identify well with the smell of ham.

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