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RaNkeri · #1

Well, I couldn't really find any better place for this thread, so I thought that I could post it here then :o

So yeah, just curious to know if any of you, or someone who you know, have diabetes?
I myself am suffering from type one diabetes(a.k.a "Young age diabetes") which I got when I was 3 years old, meaning that I've lived with it over 15 years for now. It doesn't really make my life any harder, since I 've practically lived with it almost all my life. I cannot remember the time when I didn't have diabetes. Ofcourse, sometimes it does suck when your bloodsugar goes too low and after that you have to suffer from terrible headache.

My bloodsugar ratings are ok, although they could be lower. For example, last time my HbA1c was measured, it was 8.7, if HbA1c is lower than 9, you're doing well, but the ideal goal is to have HbA1c lower than 7.5.

I've sofar taken insulin via doses (approx. 6 times per day, min.) I don't want to use a pump, since I can't really imagine myself carrying a smallbox on my pelvis, which is connected into my stomach with a hose.

Interesting thing is, that there has been few succesful operations to recover insulin cells in persons pancreas, which literally cures you from diabetes. So appearantly the modern scientists can actually cure all the diabetics in close future.

Lucky for me, I do not have type 2 diabetes, which often occurs on people who are overweighted. For example about 16 million people in the United States have diabetes mellitus, a serious, life-long disorder that is, as yet, incurable. About one-third of these people do not know they have diabetes and are not under medical care. Each year, approximately 600,000 people are diagnosed with diabetes. In Illinois, approximately 500,000 persons 18 years of age and older have diagnosed diabetes.

But yeah, let me know, does any of you guys, or someone who you know, have diabetes?

Moobs · #2

sadie · #3

i had gestational diabetes when i was pregnant with my second son. it truly sucked, even though i was able to control it without having to take injections. the diet was really strict and i had to prick my fingers five or six times a day.

RaNkeri · #4

Gestational diabetes? I've never head that term before :o

But you mean, it was only temporary illness? I've never heard from such diabetes.

I also have prick my fingers once a day, but the nurse thinks I should do it more often

sadie · #5

http://www.diabetes.org/gestational-diabetes.jsp

kahljorn · #6

My girlfriend has type 1 diabetes. She nearly went into a diabetic coma when she was 11.
Type two isn't worse than type one, from what I understand. Type one generally means your pancreas doesn't work at all. There's a few supposed cures out there that don't involve using surgery if you're interested.

Goto an indian/herb store and buy an herb called Fenugreek, you might recognize the taste it's used to make immitation maple syrup. Fenugreek is supposed to have a very stimulating effect on the pancreas, along with the ability to control blood sugar. Essentially, before insulin, that's what was used(and somewhat successfully).
In general, according to certain holistic sciences that used to treat diabetes, you should attempt to eat fruits/veggies that are bitter or pungent. There's a vegetable called "Bitter melon" that is supposed to be good for diabetics, however, it tastes like shit so it'd be best if you found some decent recipes for it.

None of that is telling you to stop taking your insulin. Don't, under any condition, do that. However, I think it would be interesting to see what happens if you tried them and tested your blood as well. My girlfriend doesn't do that. Let me know if you try either of those, i could find some other stuff to try.

P.S. DO NOT GET AN INSULIN PUMP THEY HAVE MANY, MANY COMPLICATIONS ACCORDING TO MY GIRLFRIEND. Stick with whatever you are doing now.

Jeff The Ninja · #7

A friend of mine has diabetes, the same as Rankeri. She is always hanging around me beacause of my never ending Gummy Bear supply.

WhiteRat · #8

I had my finger pricked one time in 4th grade and I passed out and fell over on the floor like a log being cut by a logger hired by OILMAN GEORGE BUSH.

RaNkeri · #9

kahljorn: Well, I've never heard about those, so I'm not very sure about great would they work out, andI don't even want to know :P

I've gone unconscious because of too low blood sugars few times when I was a kid. I think worst one of those was on 3rd grade, when I was totally unaware what I was doing, so I went out into -30 degrees with only wearing pants and t-shirt. Luckily one of my friend's parents were there, so the ytook me home and gave me honey.

Novadays I'm able to recognize when I have too low blood sugars, and I carry a chocolate bar with me almost everywhere where I go, just in case.

Type2 ain't more lethal than type1, but scientists say that people with type2 diabetes have greater risk to gain a heartdisease.

Big McLargehuge · #10

i had diabetes insipidis when i had brain surgery. Only that has nothing to do with blood sugar and is related to the lack of cortisol and causes dehydration

Terra · #11

I have a lot of friends that have diabetes. A couple need to take shots several times a day and one has to wear a pump.

It seems that there are more and more people diagnosed with this every day. Five years ago I hardly knew anybody but now it seems most people I know have one type of it or another.

maggiekarp · #12

My brother has type two diabetes

I make fun of him for it, like "Haha you got diabetes" or "I will kill you with a pixie stix you diabetic sonuvabitch"

Then he laughs and throws something heavy at me

executioneer · #13

i'll take some!

the_dudefather · #14

my friend took a diabeties test at the hospital, if you got it they send you a letter, if you dont, you dont get a letter, leading to hilarious anxiety as you wait for a letter which may never come

kahljorn · #15

I find it hilarious that you would excuse something because you've never heard it. I'm too lazy to find government sites but I'm sure I could find one with information about it.
Fenugreek link

I didn't read that link, so it's like russian roulette.

Dr. V · #16

I have insulin resistance and my girlfriend has type 2. She can sometimes shoot up into the 500's. As for me, I take Metformin (generic for Glucoflage) and it keeps me around 80.

RaNkeri · #17

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Originally Posted by kahljorn

I find it hilarious that you would excuse something because you've never heard it. I'm too lazy to find government sites but I'm sure I could find one with information about it.
Fenugreek link

I didn't read that link, so it's like russian roulette.

Seriously, if it would work, I'm sure that my diabetes nurse would've atleast mentioned about it. I don't really trust these "Nature's own medicines".

kahljorn · #18

You don't trust "Nature's own medicines"? Where do you think modern day medicine comes from? Where do you think they get the medicine FROM? The source? Almost all medicines come from substances that are within plants, and sometimes animals. Do you think they just get medicine from their assholes or something? The chemicals come from SOMEWHERE(because for some reason in this magical realm we can't suddenly summon them from nowhere) and that somewhere just so happens to be plants 80% of the time.

How do you think they treated illness before modern medicine?
Let me put it to you in a very blunt way, at least 80% of the medicines that are currently on the market are derived from plant sources. Plants actually have chemicals and 'Medicines' inside of them. Did you know morphine comes from a plant? How about penicillin(it grows on a plant, anyhow)?

you're so stupid it makes me laugh. Seriously do some research or something and you'll find that herbs actually have chemicals inside of them that are extremely similar to the chemicals used by modern day medicine. I could probably sit here and name shit that modern medicine has derived from plant sources, and I'm sure other people could weigh in a few things as well.
Also, the basic knowledge of all medical science comes from knowledge obtained from experiments with Plants and herbal medicines that was used for thousands of years, and recently carried over to Modern day medicine. Essentially what I'm saying is that most of our current medical knowledge is derived from past medical knowledge. Imagine that idea, huh?
Also every civilized country in the world used to use the medical system I'm talking about(most of them still do). Including the greeks, romans, chinese, indian, egyptian, native american, etc. etc.
By the way, the only thing our medicinal system has really "Won" against is infections, and that was derived from a plant source.

Plants have a very real effect, if you don't believe me try smoking pot or eatting a Datura plant(how about peyote or any of the other psychoactive plants?), you'll believe me after that. It's not meant to be used as a cure all, just like how taking insulin everyday for the rest of your life isn't going to cure you of diabetes. It's supposed to help you be HEALTHIER, and/or HEALTHY.
The herb I suggested has been used for literally THOUSANDS of years to treat diabetes, and you trust something that has been used for what, 50? I'm not suggesting you stop taking your insulin, rather that you try taking this "Herb" and see what type of physical effects it has on your blood sugar level. I'm not telling you to believe blindly, rather that you try it for yourself. If you find a decent indian/herbal store it'd probably cost you like 5 dollars at most for a bottle of them. You pay 20-50 dollars for insulin, right? Maybe more?

And what the fuck, why would your diabetes nurse know about it? You think because they are nurses and doctors they know everything? If doctors knew everything, you dirty cocksucker, you wouldn't have diabetes.
Why don't you ask your doctor, but don't stop there, ask alot of doctors(because contrary to popular belief doctors actually have differing opinions). Then ask them about herbal medicine. I can already hear alot of their responses because I've already been through this process. That's right, I know and you assume.

As a final bit of knowledge, herbs are generally NOT AS STRONG as modern medicine, and thus, not as severe. This is probably where your idea that it doesn't work comes from. Herbs aren't supposed to cure you, neither is moder medicine. Draw some conclusions from that statement, because I don't feel like laying out the obvious right now.
I will say one thing though, everything you put into your body has an effect on your body, because it is your body's job to take substances from what you eat and put them into your body. That's how it sustains itself. So what happens when you stick in herbs that have chemicals in them? what about modern medicine?

Anyway, that's about all I wanted to weigh in. I was going to find government research sites but I don't really care anymore. I just hope you die a horrible diabetic death, maybe one where you lose all your limbs or something. No I'm just kidding that's horrible but I at least hope you're humbled in a painful way.

ziggytrix · #19

You go Khal! Fight the good fight.

darkvare · #20

my grand father has diabetes, i really dont know what type but he is still healthy. i have a frind called guillaume who has diabetes too. An uncle who has it too, the one that has it worst is my uncle he has had like 10 interventions first cornea transplant the a foot operation and several eye cleaning consults thankfully for him the inssurance pays it all but i dont think he will last long thuogh

kahljorn · #21

"You go Khal! Fight the good fight."

IM TRYING MAN BUT LIKE EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE TIME IT SEEMS SO POINTLESS DAMNIT

Sicktodeathmx · #22

Jason has to wear an insulin pump

He's been wearing it for several years, it doesn't really get in the way... He has to change it every three days, but he says its better than having to take several shots a day

I'm hypo, I only have to check my blood sugar a couple of times a day, nothing like diabetes though, I guess