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Old Aug 29th, 2003, 12:06 PM       
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they preserved and re-interpreted Hellenistic culture as well as expanded on science, astronomy, math, algebra, law, history, agriculture, architecture, and music. granted, it wasn't on the same level as the Europeans, but to say that they never had their own renaissance is inaccurate.
They haven't had the cultural rebirth, which is exactly what a renaissance is. They haven't had that.

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I don't buy into this. if it were true, how would you explain the Timurids, Tunis, Cyrenaica, the Mamlukes, Adeni, Omani, or the Koyunlan Caliphates?
All third string quarterbacks when compared to the Ottoman Empire. they were the undisputed champs of the ME.

Prior to the Reformation, most Europeans called themselves Christians. Some nobles used terms like Saxxon and Norman, but most official acts were done as Christians. Afterwards, you see Englishman, Spaniard, Surrender Monkey....I mean French. That happened because power was taken from Rome. It was no longer the only place that ruled.
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