Ozone hole is bigger than it has ever been

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Right, and we could say that the U.S. isn't a "true" capitalist nation, because we have welfare state policies such as social security and expanded Medicare.....

Point is, for all intensive purposes, we are the model for Capitalism, and the SU was the model for Communism. Perhaps Cuba isn't so bad, but they are also a tiny island with a considerably smaller population than most industrialized nations. So, Look at China, North Korea, and Russia. Did they, or have they, been beacons of environmental standards....?

And even on the micro- level, a lot of so-called Communists I know place environmental concerns well below others. Why? Well, they are supposedly all about "theworker." Well what is used by business as an excuse to drive down wages? That's right, environmental standards that cost the companies money.