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Old Sep 13th, 2003, 02:18 PM       
You can have welfare and still have Capitalism. Capitalism doesn't require the non-existance of welfare.

And I never said the USSR wasn't a "true" communist state. I say it was not evan a 'false' communist state.

The union may have been the model communist state for non-communists, but not for us.

If you want to start a thread about whether or not the USSR was "communist or not", do so. I don't want to talk about it but I will still reply.

And the reason that the enviroment is put behind the needs of "The Workers" is becasue once the Capitalist system of waste and destruction is ended, the enviroment will probably do better. There is no point trying to save the environment under capitalism becasue it is like a cup of water in an ocean, and companies and corporations wont really feature prominently in the future.
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