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Originally Posted by O71394658
Brandon, I would appreciate if you would back up your statements with facts instead of spouting blanket statements that are way too typical of 14-year old boys who hate the world. 
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The proof is all around you (i.e. self-evident) and thus a proof is not necessary. In other words, I don't see anything in his argument that requires a proof ... western culture just IS, for the most part, that way. People hate themselves for being people and always seem to be stuck in this "us against God" mode as if he is a separate entity. He is within AND without us and I think the mistake people make is in the separation.