Post-Post-Modernism

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In non-theory terms, he's just saying that we're all products of mass media, and pop art, so when we draw from the more heady aspects of past art movments with our current wave of cynical, self awareness, we're creating something that needs it's own definition. Then he attempts to tackle that on his own, and he's in over his head, describing some "fuck shit up" cause you can name check some cool shit juvenile vision of "new", "avant" or even "pop" as it relates to a bunch of movements he doesn't seem to have much grasp on.

I'm guessing you're just trying to make heads or tails out of his concept itself right? Kinda hard to pay much credibility to someone who puts Ministry, and The Breeders into a conceptual link with the popular cultural effects of someone like Lenny Bruce. It's more about what personally turns this guy on, and what's on his book shelf, then anything. He's attempting to define a movement that isn't interested in defining itself under his perscribed Avant Pop dream team banner. Even if there was some secret unification between Jello Biafra, Kim Gordon, and John S. Hall from King Missile (blech!), I doubt they want some guy who adopted the last name "Amerika" to label them.

Post-Post Modern is like when people say Post-Post Punk. Even when you use it seriously, there has to be a hint of bullshit, winking, and sneering about it. It's genre terminology that's meaningless beyond magazines, and theory books once you learn the history of modern culture itself.