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Old Jan 10th, 2004, 09:12 PM       
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I think you've grossly underestimated the role of fulfillment of instinct in pleasure.
Of course it's a part of it. But "fulfillment of instinct" can be achieved via means other than the pursuit of material wealth. Intellectual achievement, spiritual satisfaction, freedom of expression, sexual satisfaction, social stability etc. are all things that are considered pleasurable. As far as I can tell, there is nothing special about capitalism that makes it easier for those who pursue these things.
I was more opposed to your idea that what it pleasurable to humans is shaped by culture. Instinct exists outside of it.

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Don't underestimate the abilities of the human mind.
Yes, the human mind has a remarkable ability to shine shit, but it would always amount to self-delusion in the case of captivity. Our desire for freedom is a very strong impulse.

Don't get me wrong, capitalism isn't without its faults. I just objected to a few of your premises.
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