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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Harlem
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Jan 22nd, 2004, 06:29 PM
Hoover was a joke. He was just a pre-New Dealer.
You guys need to read about FDR. He was either horribly misinformed or utterly sick. I'm serious. Are you aware of the damage the Tenesse Valley Authority caused? Are you aware that giving unions so much power inevitibly led to less work? Are you aware that we could have avoided Pearl Harbor had we increased our military capabilities as a preemptive measure? For that matter, are you aware that we gave Japan many reasons to attack us, such as our trade embargo on them?
All that aside, Buffalo Tom, your remark about the responsibility falling on the leader is your personal opinion. I highly disagree. And to be quite frank, I really don't care if Bush lied or not, because that is not how I grade presidents anyway. This is why I think that Nixon is one of best presidents we've ever had.
Furthermore, you still have not made a convincing case. Look at Bush's opposition and how much they have lied about already. Look at former presidents - hell, look at Bill Clinton. I'm not talking about is BJ, either. Look at any politician, really - remember California? Oh, yeah, I forgot; you wanted to keep him in power because he sided with your political views.
I have a warped sense of reality? No, I don't - I know reality. You just have a warped sense of morality.
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