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				Jan 29th, 2004, 11:49 AM
			
			
			
		
			
			       
				
			
			 
 "Using an insult rather than debating the point is anad hominem attack. It doesn't prove anything.
 
 "There is no such thing as perfect understanding, and
 you did not address my point."
 
 Actually I did, when I reminded you not to confuse the
 objective with the subjective, I simply peppered my
 response with the proper amount of disdain for your
 juvenile opinion. I suggest you start studying the
 Toulmin model for debate rather than jumping into buzz
 words and logical fallacies. You're over reaching
 yourself. You, like many modern neanderthals before
 you, have percieved argument and debate to be some
 discourse devoted to attacking opponants and winning
 some sort of victory. . .Which it is not. Debate takes
 many forms, and it is just as often ameliorative
 rather than combative - Especially here at the Mock
 where humour was paired with wit to foster open
 communication -At least before the arrival of trolls
 like you and Vince.
 
 The fruits of good debate are not immediately
 tangible. It is not being right which is important,
 but coming closer to the truth, thus civility is
 required and an open mind.
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