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Irwin M. Fletcher Irwin M. Fletcher is offline
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Old Feb 26th, 2003, 01:51 PM       
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Originally Posted by Helm
Is Helloween and Stratovarious the only power metal you've heard, or not?
Of course I've heard more than that, but any true power metal fan would know as well as I that the generalizations about the genre tend to be true.

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Originally Posted by Helm
Contrary to the US, some countries in Europe - like Greece, where I was born and raised and currently recide - never stopped listening to metal, and their metalheads have a very keen understanding of the various genres so stop 'exaggerating'.
Pffft. Come on, so because I'm from the US that makes me "less into metal"? Because unlike Europe the music industry in my country is completely retarded and abandoned metal in the early 90's? Well, I never stopped listening to metal, and I still listen to the same metal that I listened to 16+ years ago today, so...

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Don't want our favourite EXTREME TO THE MAX bands to be associated with faggy power metal?
Keep in mind that I never said anything about things being "extreme", nor did I say that I don't like any power metal, Sherlock. my whole point was that, plain and simple fact, Arch Enemy is not a power metal band. I listen to tons of shit that is so far from "extreme" it's not even funny. That is the least of my concerns. And hell, I still enjoy early Skid Row and Def Leppard, so I am not at all concerned with what people perceve to be "faggy".

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What you fail to do, contrary to me, is provide reason why AE are 'NOT a power metal band' as you so decisively proclaim. You can throw a fit if you want, stomp the floor hard and hold your breath, but if you do not provide a reasonable argument about how AE's usage of double-bass drumming with the predictable 8ths on the snare, mute E pentatonic riffs with flashy leads over it, and customary structures - complete with solo after the second verse (all employed in exactly the same way by Stratovarious, mind you) - is NOT distinctively Power Metal, then you have no case...
For one: The vocals. Power metal, in my opinion, is based more around traditional metal, and there is not a bit of actual singing in Arch Enemy's music. Song structure has nothing to do with it. Arch Enemy could very well use the same song structures as Britney Spears. The verse/chorus/bridge type of format is used in every genre, not just power metal. Now, I will grant you the fact that some of the riffing that the Amott brothers drop is absolutely based around traditional 80's metal, and some of the melodic lead playing is just as likely to being to mind Cacophony as it is anything else, but again - that does not make them a power metal band. You mentioned that death metal was born from thrash... does that make Malevolent Creation a thrash band? No? Why not? A lot of their riffs are blatant thrash. A lot of the songs structures are similar to thrash. It's the SOUND. I'm not sure what I would call Arch Enemy. To me the "melodic death metal" tag has become useless, but they are not just a metal band, they are not a thrash band, and they are not a power metal band. They may combine elements of the three, but they are absolutely the least similar to power metal in the final product and how it SOUNDS.

Two other quick points:

1. Your emphasis on music theory is ridiculous. Some of the best musicians and songwriters in history have known absolutely nothing about music theory. Many of them don't even know how to read music.

2. My website is not a metal website. I cover all sorts of music.

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