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Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Actually, the info is in dispute, I just don't feel like adressing it because it seems like aretarded idea to begin with and was nothing more than an appeal to emotion.
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Which info was in dispute? You're right, why substantiate any of your claims when it's just easier to sit back and throw mud at a guy...?
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Whether or not the rockets being made were carrying WMD. Lockheed Martin doesn't offer any info on that and Moore never really proved his argument either.
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YOU are arguing that it is done so in a misleading fashion. It absolutely, unequivocally IS NOT....PERIOD. If you watch the film, and you have the ability to absord the things that you see, you can see that the statement is clearly an introduction for Heston.
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Have you seen it? He did without question edit it to make Heston appear to say somethinghe didn't.
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I don't see you turning red over the high profile folks Ann Coulter attacks on a weekly basis.
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Weekly basis? this might be the second Michael Moore topic I've discussed on these boards. You make sound like I am on some crusade against him.
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Moore has been pretty quiet about all of this, because up until recently, it has been internet geeks and conservatives with an alternative agenda who have been doing this.
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that and he needed time to properly spin his bullshit
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It isn't the "Gun Week" guy he cares about, it's the fact that CNN was sloppy enough to let this guy come on and talk as an "expert." Whether you like it or not, CNN carries more clout that "thisainttrue.org" or whatever. Moore will continue to sell books and movies no matter what, but he believes in the arguments he is making, and when the mainstream press begins to attack him, he will defend himself.
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Its funny how you accuse me of just bashing him with no support, when, after rereading the article again, I noticed he never actually adressed the points of the two critics he specifically points out. He just calls them names and slings mud. In fact, he goes atfer Lofton on a completly different issue. Some people might read that as a consession that Moore can't out debate him fairly.
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Whose law would they have been violating?
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New York State, where the NRA was founded.
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Had they declined the appearance due to the sensitivities around the area, and out of respect to the fucking dead, I'm fairly certain no serious litigation would've been brought against our kind and noble friends at the NRA.
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They canceled everything but the general address. Plans were made and obligations had to be met. The NRA is probably the biggest promoter of gun safety in the country. Why shouldn't they say something?
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Heston WAS being defiant of the mayor, irregardless of whether or not theentire speech got played.
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I think this quote best begins my response
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Again, maybe you should chill with your partisan hatred for the man and think about it.
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Heston didn't say it like he was storming the town. The mayor telling the NRA that they should not come to Denver wpould be like someone saying "The gays better not come to San Fransisco". They are already there in force.
Denver is an NRA stronghold and its members are part of the community. Heston was pointing out that the people the mayor of Denver works for were attending the convention.