watch the prisoner abuse scandal widen

[kellychaos]

Originally Posted by mburbank

"Well that's some logic there Burbank. I guess that means all Muslims are terrorists, all Blacks are gangbangers, all Irish drink green beer, and blah blah blah."
-ABC123

Yep, that's what I'm saying. I hate to say it, but unfortunately there's no space at all between "I doubt it's a few bad apples" and every single person in the military was involved. I hate this binary world we live in, but everything is either black or white. It's not at all possible that this came straight down the chain of command without involving everyone, and it's also not impossible that some important people above the level of enlisted folks encouraged and new about this unless everyone did. It's always one thing or the other, and that's what I meant.

If I'm wrong though, then it was just six people, and the lack of raining, lack of planning, involvement of the CIA, use of private contractors for interrogation, nodding and winking were all purely coincidental and not related in any way and the only people who bear any responsability at all are these six sick bastards, and now that they've beenstopped the problem must be totally over.

That's my logic. I hate it, but that's the way things work.

Oh, and Vinth, sell me your site, you cowardly fat ass.[/code]

My beef was with the "following orders" cop-out, really. Were they pressured into their actions? If so, how much pressure (and from whom) was applied? In other words, if while I was in, someone from a lowly rank pressured me to do such things, they had better have been at a rank of full colonel with a gun to my head or else I would have told them to fuck off. While I admit this IS possible, Max, I have to admit that it sounds kind of "conspiracy theory" to me and that I had not seem such kinds of intimidation to commit unlawful acts in any of the commands that I was in. That being said; however, it IS kind of fishy that they were able to get away with such acts with no one above them in the chain of command being made aware of it.