I'm going to say this one more time, since you just started coming to this particular forum: I HAVE NO FUCKING PARTY AFFILIATION. NONE. But I think the Bush administration is lying to us.
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Saddam is not, nor has he ever been a threat??? Where are your facts. Show me even a shred of evidence or a theory by a valid source that this statement is true. He is clearly connected to terrorism against this country. Read jayna Davis for starters then I will move onto more specific sources which VERY CLEARLY verify this. Perhaps your source is Dan Rather and his puppet "translator" or do you prefer Chrissy Hynde... or maybe Sean Penn? What is the foundation for your argument?
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Where are the facts that he is a threat? Inconclusive satellite photos? What about CIA director George Tenet's repeated statements that there is NO EVIDENCE of ties between Iraq and Al-Qaeda?
Here's a little breakdown of how I've seen it play out........
BUSH: We need to attack Iraq.
REST OF WORLD WITH COMMON SENSE: Why?
BUSH: He has weapons of mass destruction.
R.O.W.: We should have some inspectors go in and find the weapons first.
BUSH: Listen, we really need to attack these guys.
R.O.W.: Look, they're searching for the weapons. What's the problem?
BUSH: Well, he used those weapons against his own people.
R.O.W.: Yeah, well, that was a long time ago, and you turned a blind eye to it. Let them find the weapons.
BUSH: Hey, we can attck them now! They have ties to Al-Qaeda!
ROW: When did this happen? Where's the evidence?
BUSH: Well, we don't have any. But we have good reason to think so.
ROW: OK, get back to us with some evidence.
BUSH: OK, we found something! Can we attack now?
R.O.W.: What now?
BUSH: Well, some missiles that can go 120 miles.
R.O.W.: Oh, so he might be able to bomb Kuwait or something. Big fuckin' deal.
BUSH: But they violate the UN resolution!
R.O.W.: Your gov't violated shitloads of them, and no one ever bombed you.
BUSH: But he gassed his own people!
R.O.W.: You already said that.
BUSH: Oh yeah. Well, he has ties to Al-Qaeda.
R.O.W.: You already said that too. Evidence?
BUSH: Well, we still don't have any.
This is how it has been for the last eight fucking months or so. They can't garner support for this war because it's a bullshit effort, and anyone who's paid even casual attention can see that. They are lying to us.
I'll check the sources you've cited here. Until I see something that concretely demonstrates we have a reason to be over there, while in the meantime N Korea is saying, "We have nukes, motherfuckers! And we'll use 'em!" and intercepting commercial airliners, and basically saying "Come and get it, you cracker bitches!" then I say you've swallowed another load of Grade-A Government Brand Bullshit (TM).
EDIT: By the way, what the fuck is wrong with Chrissie Hynde or Sean Penn having opinions? Does their status as celebrities automatically invalidate their beliefs? I'll bet they probably have internet access too, you know. They're probably just as capable of looking up nifty links as you are. Are you really arrogant enough to think that you're more intelligent or more informed than these people just because they're famous and you're not? What a load of shit.
While I don't know much about Penn's politics, and would tend to reflexively disagree with Chrissie Hynde because she's an ardent supporter of PETA, but I applaud them both for voicing opposition to an administration that is currently up to a lot of harmful shit, both domestically and internationally.
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