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Old May 18th, 2004, 11:29 AM       
See, that's very funny.

My point is, we torture. We do it, we subcontract it. You start with serious rules about when and where you torture people, sets of conditions. Then those rules get ratoinalized and widened.

James Yee was kept in Solitary for more than three months. For some of that time he was kept in sensory deprivation, his eyes and ears sealed. How long? We don't know. He's under a gag order from the military. All charges against him were dropped. But he still can't tell you what happened to him while he was in solitary.

That's how an American citizen, who's name the media knew, who's arrest was a matter of public record faired.

What protections does an annonymous Iraqi or Afghani have?

There have to be oversights and standards that apply to everyone. It doesn't matter what you think they've done, what they have done or what they might do. It's not just about the human rights of the tortured. It's about what becomes of a country that uses torture. Our presumptive president likes to talk about evil. You can't condemn evil and practice it.
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