daphne's and drumming's vegan thread

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Originally Posted by Daphne

Yikes that's creepy. Thank you for posting it though.
I just had a blood test, so we'll see about my iron etc when the results come back. I wish I could find a farm that treated their chickens well so I could eat eggs again. I've honestly thought about getting my own as a pet for that very reason :/

i found the entire article, but i don't like the intro or the undertone. it starts out with a scare tactic of having miscarriges because of malnutrition. i don't think any of the vegans or vegitarians that are posting here have put that little thought into their diet, but this article does have useful information. i would have posted a better article if i had found it, that didn't have the scare tactic bullcrap.

the "myths" it talks on are as follows:

Meat consumption contributes to famine and depletes the Earth's natural resources.
Vitamin B12 can be obtained from plant sources.
The body can convert omega-6 fatty acids into omega-3 fatty acids as it needs.
The body's needs for vitamin A can be entirely obtained from plant foods.
Meat-eaters have higher rates of heart and kidney disease, cancer, obesity and osteoporosis than vegetarians.
Saturated fats cause heart disease and cancer, and low-fat, low-cholesterol diets are healthier for people.
Vegetarians live longer and have more energy and endurance than meat-eaters.
The "cave man" diet was low-fat and/or vegetarian. (i don't know where they got that myth, as i've never heard it.)
Meat and saturated fat consumption have increased in the 20th century, with a corresponding increase in heart disease and cancer.
Soy products are adequate substitutes for meat and dairy products.
The human body is not designed for meat consumption.
Eating animal flesh causes violent, aggressive behaviour in humans.
Animal products contain numerous, harmful toxins.
Eating meat or animal products is less "spiritual" than eating only plant foods. (same with this one)
Eating animal foods is inhumane.


this is a small summary that's at the bottom of the whole long thing. i tried to cut out the unneeded comments in the excerpt i took:

As a cleansing diet, vegetarianism is a good choice. Several health conditions (e.g., gout) can often be ameliorated by a temporary reduction in animal products with an increase of plant foods. But such measures must not be continuous throughout life: there are vital nutrients found only in animal products that we must ingest for optimal health. ...
"Biochemical individuality" is a subject worth clarifying. Coined by biochemist Roger Williams, PhD, the term refers to the fact that different people require different nutrients based on their unique genetic make-up. Ethnic and racial background figure in this concept as well. ... A diet that works for one may not work as well for someone else. As a practitioner, I've seen several patients following a low-fat, low-protein, high-carbohydrate diet with severe health problems: obesity, candidiasis, hypothyroidism, leaky gut syndrome, anaemia and generalised fatigue. Most of these people have been vegetarians. Because of the widespread rhetoric that a vegetarian diet is "always healthier" than a diet that includes meat or animal products, these people see no reason to change their diet, even though that is the cause of their problems. ...

Conversely, some people do very well on little or no meat and remain healthy as lacto-vegetarians or lacto-ovo-vegetarians. The reason for this is because these diets are healthier for those people, not because they're healthier in general. However, a total absence of animal products, whether meat, fish, insects, eggs, butter or dairy, is to be avoided. Though it may take years, problems will eventually ensue for these people. The reason for this is simple evolution: humanity evolved eating animal foods and fats as part of its diet, and our bodies are suited and accustomed to them. One cannot change evolution in a few years.

When it comes to good nutrition ... humanity has been consuming animal products and saturated fats for thousands of years as part of its diet. ...

this also has all the resources listed at the bottom of the article if you're wondering on credibility.



also, as a sort of disclaimer, i like all you girls, and i think you should be able to eat how you want to. the reason i'm posting this is to make sure you're informed while doing so.