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Old Oct 4th, 2004, 06:04 PM       
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Originally Posted by Chojin
I can see the point behind voting 3rd party in most elections, but I think the risk is far too great if the president is re-elected in this one, so I have to side with whomever has the greatest chance of ousting him.
What has Kerry said that makes anyone believe his administration would be any different than Bush's in effect? Yes, he's said he'd have done the same stuff BETTER, but isn't that a bit of a stretch for the average Democrat? If you guys had your choice, is that what you'd be voting for? A smarter, more nuanced Bush that's not so religious?

Kerry's campaign is so devoid of any sort of substance it's shocking. He is decidedly not George W Bush, so that seems to satisfy the base, and he's trying his best to be George W Bush to capture the swing voters and the undecideds. My guess is that those I used to think of as principled, ideological progressives are just buying the label here and hoping he'll suddenly turn into a Democrat after he unseats Dubya... But don't you guys at least need some sort of passing effort to be made by him toward running as a liberal candidate?

I understand the point of view you guys have on this, and I guess that if I thought Kerry had a snowball's chance in Hell at actually winning I'd have less of a problem with the mass adoption of so flawed a tactic. Has anyone stopped to consider that Ralph Nader, a principled liberal that I disagree with but respect, would do better against Bush than Kerry might simply because more traditional Democrats would believe in him than they do Kerry?

Yes, I understand that by the argument you guys have made over and over that it's just too late to switch horses... I just hope that this sort of election doesn't become the norm. I see hate and fear winning out over principle, and that scares me. Hopefully, a Kerry loss will cause many Democrats to reconsider their decisions and actions over the last two or three years and re-find their path.

I believe that we'll one day look back on this time in history and say that Democrats trying to vote strategically, instead of voting with their hearts, handed over the entire government to the Republicans at just the point they'd become most dangerous... for "X" number of years.
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mburbank~ Yes, okay, fine, I do know what you meant, but why is it not possible for you to get through a paragraph without making all the words cry?

How can someone who obviously thinks so much of their ideas have so little respect for expressing them? How can someone who so yearns to be taken seriously make so little effort?!
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