"Proof" that Iraq sought uranium was fake

[The_Rorschach]

Kevin: Well, in regards to South Korea, what you also have there is a hyper-capitalist system that is modernizing so rapidly that any shred of previous history and culture will soon be a part of folklore. Granted, this is probably still better than poverty and suffering under a Stalinist maniac.....

Respectfully friend, I disagree. There is enough of a culture remaining in Korea that they would eagerly embrace their Northern cousins if not for Kim Jung Il's policies. While many of their traditions seems to be disappearing, I admit, the same is true of most nations which adapt and develope, always changing. Static tendancies bring stagnation.

Kevin: But anyway-- is this really another case of the "white man's burden," Ror...? Haven't white Europeans done a bang up job w/ that region as it is (please note sarcasm)????

Heh, well, thats certainly a different light than I'd looked at it in. You're quite correct, thats exactly what it is, but what else is left? Leaving them to their own devices has done nothing to improve matters. Over the last fifty years things have gotten worse, not better. It's not due to lack of education, or money, or protection. It has to do with the oppressive regimes which have ruled the region with total disregard to the people's will. Your man Jefferson was right, ' The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. '(letter to Col. William S. Smith, 1787). And if you doubt that tyranny exists there, despite your philosophical view of what tyranny is, there is justification to show it does exist:

"The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive and judiciary, in the same hands ... may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." - James Madison

"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson


Kevin I believe Powell when he says they had no idea they were fake. I think this administration is so eager and anxious to get this war rolling, that they'd use just about ANYTHING in condeming Hussein.

Well. . .I'm not sure. I trust Powell, but Cheney and Bush have had motivations for their actions above and beyond the simplistic tenant of displacing Saddam. It is quite possible the papers were completely contrived. Never forget than many of Bush's appointees are left over from the days of Iran/Contra, and have broken US and International law in the past without hesitation.

Kevin: IMO, there's enough REAL evidence to condemn Hussein with, and there's really no need to fabricate anything. However, I don't know that the truth justifies a unilateral war....

Unilateral war. . .We do have the combined support of both Britain and Spain, neither of which I believe will retract themselves. As for Hussein, there are plenty of reasons to remove him, simply none which call upon the United States to do so. Rightly, it should be the people of the Iraq, but I do not believe they could do so in such a day and age as exists now.