Red-State America at her finest

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by Preechr

I think it would probably be easier to just pass a federal law that allows the Evil Red States to be walled off from the rest of the country, since they're all so damn evil and beyond all hope. We should probably leave some holes in the walls though, so we can still poke at them with sticks.

We all know that the only way to get evil, stupid people like... well, southerners... to get along with black folks is to force them to do it. The only effective solution to any problem, in the south at least, is to pass laws from 1,000 miles away and threaten to shoot anyone of the ignorant hillbillies that don't like it.

Ignorant facts such as that schools are still segregated by choice or that slavery would have naturally died as much as the Civil War killed it with the invention of mechanized agriculture anyway shouldn't stand in the way of anyone that understands the need we all have for a properly subjugated and economically oppressed subrace of Americans we can blame stuff on... Like when we have to defy France, who supported the Confederate south, in our best interests and whatnot.

Old grudges from best-forgotten mistreatments by oppressive nations only matter in other parts of the world, like Palestine or Tibet or Vancouver or Iraq or Thailand or all of Africa or... well, all those other very different portions of the planet. Here we just call them ignorant sissies that don't know how to think right and abrogate their rights to decide for themselves in their own time. This always works out for everyone invovled, never making anyone resentful.
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Cute, but in typical Preechr fashion, a bit tangental. I'm certain a conversation about whether or not slavery was the root of the Civil War, who was right or wrong, or whatever, would be a very pleasant conversation. Same goes for desegregation. In fact, if you'd like to start the thread about how big government really caused slavery and everything bad in the world, that'd be great.

But you're missing the point. I don't really care what Alabamans (?) do with their constitution. Do I wish they would move into the 21st Century and amend the language in their constitution? Certainly. Would I be happy if they had a racist constitution, while at the same time properly funded their schools? Yeah, I could live with that.

And as much as I'd love to attack the overly simplistic dichotomy of "red" and "blue" states, the fact is that there are distinctions there. Has it become a cliche to call the south ignorant, racist, and backward? You bet it has. But sometimes you gotta call 'em like you see 'em, and this happens to be IGNORANT, RACIST, AND BACKWARD.

I think my problem is that I was all too often willing to attack the disconnected arrogance of the "blue states," while at the same time being apologetic for the "red states." But ya know what? I've grown pretty fucking tired of hearing about the Godless, latte drinking elitists in the "blue" states. I think if my "morals" as a Liberal living in a liberal state are going to get called into question because I didn't vote for the guy who was anti-abortion, then it's open season on these bitches!

Kevin, the way you are phrasing your arguments makes you look real petty.

You took an example of something horrible happening in Alabama and are trying to say how this makes "red states" (I'm really begining to hate that term) all evil.

Wrong. I never said that, and as I stated above, this has less to do with the behavior of the "red" states, and more to do with the flat out hypocricy of those who claim to hold the "moral" majority.

Want me to fall over lamenting I voted for the same guy as that state?

No dice.

Again, that's not my angle here. I know your opinion on things, and I also know that you're a reasonable human being. This shit in Alabama? Unreasonable....and ridiculous. You shouldn't lament voting the way you did, but you might want to examine the kind of coalition you're a part of. I mean, the Dems. can get crucified all day for allowing Michael Moore in to their convention, but moderate Republicans seem to get a pass for sharing their "capital" with nut bags like Roy Moore, and/or the Christian Coalition guy from this article.

If a Democrat's morality can constantly be called into check, if a liberal has "lost touch" with "average" Americans, then what the heck is this? If Alabama is "average" America, then please, leave me to ponder in my ivory tower!!!!!