Hypothetical Question

[Emu]

If you're a waiter in a restaraunt and a woman in her third trimester of pregnancy orders a beer, is it a moral judgement to refuse her? Even if it's your responsibility as a waiter?

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Are we gonna start talking about pharmacists? Could we just skip to that part?

[El Blanco]

I wouldn't be shocked to find out you have a legal responsibility to refuse her. You can't serve alcohol to minors or the visibly intoxicated, so given what we know about alcohol about pregnancy, I'd think you can't serve it.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Ugh.

I think you can serve it to them, because people who are visibly intoxicated are a danger to others around them.

Pregnant women are only harming themselves, as well as the fetus they're carrying, which totally isn't a person anyway.

FOOD FIGHT!

[El Blanco]

If that were true in the eyes of the law, why put the warning on smokes?

Also, when a mugger shoots a pregnant woman and the child dies, he gets sent up for murder.

[ziggytrix]

shit Kevin, didn't you watch the lacy peterson thing at all? :P

btw, your avatar is fuckin HUGE man

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by El Blanco

Also, when a mugger shoots a pregnant woman and the child dies, he gets sent up for murder.

Yes, but that's a relatively new thing, i.e. the EXCELLENT Peterson legislation.

Originally Posted by Ziggy

btw, your avatar is fuckin HUGE man

Too easy.

Actually, I would shrink it a bit, but I forgot how to do that. I'm no good at the intarweb.

[Emu]

That good?

[KevinTheOmnivore]

gracias.

[AngPur]

Originally Posted by El Blanco

If that were true in the eyes of the law, why put the warning on smokes?

It's a warning, not a ban. Likewise, it might be nice to say, as the waiter "Are you sure ma'am?"...

Of course, she could just have a huge friggin' beer gut and be fooling you.

[kahljorn]

Yea, and by thinking she's pregnant you're offending her. You offensive judgemental asshole. Fuck you. Now we know your true colours. Making fun of fat, beer gutted unfortunates.

Shame.

[Big Papa Goat]

Originally Posted by Emu

If you're a waiter in a restaraunt and a woman in her third trimester of pregnancy orders a beer, is it a moral judgement to refuse her? Even if it's your responsibility as a waiter?

are you asking whether the issue involves a moral judgment or whether or not it ought to be done?
Personally, I'd say that you shouldn't do it, your responsobility to give people what they want as a waiter isn't as important as your responsobility to those peoples' health and well being. Because people can want the wrong things sometimes, and I think it's alright to act on that by not respecting peoples desires all the time, whether as a server or whateverelse.

[AngPur]

Actually, on second thought I smell a catch 22...

[Immortal Goat]

I have been wondering the same thing, actually. Well, almost. In my old job as a host, I felt very strongly about seating pregnant women and young children in the smoking section of our restaurant. I should HOPE there is a law against serving alcohol to visibly pregnant women, but knowing society today, I think that is too much decency to ask of them.

[glowbelly]

ummm, it's ok to have A BEER when you are pregnant, boys, especially in the third trimester.

[Immortal Goat]

Well, you are obviously more qualified to talk about pregnancy risks than many of us are, so I will trust your judgement. I was basically referring to everything else I have heard on things like Law and Order episodes and such. Misinformation ahoy!

[AngPur]

Originally Posted by glowbelly

ummm, it's ok to have A BEER when you are pregnant, boys, especially in the third trimester.

We can get pregnant... since when? I though Fetal Alcohol Poisoning could happen in the third trimester too...

[jin]

i believe avoiding that misunderstanding is exactly why the coma's are there. ;o

And I think she wrote "A BEER", not "be a chronic alcoholic and drink enough beer to give a baby alcohol poisoning". ;>

[ziggytrix]

They have a drive-in burger joint here in Dallas that serves beer. It's great, they'll bring it right to your window - even if you're sitting in the driver's seat! :O

Waiter's aren't cops, they aren't doctors, and they aren't RESPONSIBLE for the patron's choices. The patron is the one responsible for their decisions. Anything else is modern blame passing faggotry.

[glowbelly]

thank you, jin. you understand me

my midwife told me that i could have A GLASS of champagne on new year's eve. not a bottle! a glass.

ps: i didn't.

[The_Rorschach]

Moral obligation? Moral obligation?

I never really considered drinking to be a moral matter. Furthermore, if she is restrained in her drinking, I see no reason to interfere. If she is not, then you have justifiable cause granted through her own actions. Certainly you have no right to capriciously dictate the terms anyone other than yourself must live by, only a mad ego could convince you otherwise.

My sentiments fall into line with Ziggy's on this one.