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Old Jul 5th, 2005, 05:53 PM       
It's not human beings. It's the "Microcosm". The "Divine seed of the divine human" inside of us. Sorry to ruin your wonderful perception of gnosticism, but it's all bulshit(what you've been reading, especially). They say human beings can never know God and never understand existence, though. Just the microcosm inside of us. Pick up some books by Jan van rijckenborgh and max heindel. They are the more recent writers on gnostic ideas. They are rosicrucians. I'd also reccomend the gospel of thomas, which they talk about alot, and the Book of Enoch just because a lot ofpeople treat him like Hermes or Thoth-- andgnostic teachings seem tobederieved from them. In fact, you could even read plato, since alotof their teachings come from him, especially the allegory ofthecave.
Freemasonry is good to look into if you want to learn about gnosis. You know, it doesn't really matter what you study, once you start reading into it, and not phony internet shit(which i can tell you're reading. You may or may not know this but 90% of the people who have webpages on the internet arecomplete morons who don't know what theyare talking about. People with the mind of a 12 year old playcating themselves as some ancient gnostic).
Also, you should stop trying to correct people's spellings when you don't even understand what you're reading. The idea, and very definition, of gnosis is "knowledge". Why would anyone who seeks knowledge and gains it continue to seek knowledge if the bullshit you're saying is correct? Why would it even still be around? Shock value? Shock people out of what? Where's the momentum? This is why you're a complete moron. Spell checkers don't raise your iq at all, it helps to at least understand what you're talking about. Use your brain, read something that isn't some worthless asshole's opinion on the internet about the "Demiurge".
This whole "God is evil thing" doesn't even work into the picture with the way gnostics consider things. Dialectics, we live in a dialectic universe, where everything dies. There's nothing permanant, here, in this world--not even death. That's what they say. Not that God's evil. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Gnosis is about learning, not ascribing to a set ideaor a setpath. It's an investigation into the knowledge of the world, all kinds. It's taking religion and belief and ascribing philosophy to it,psychology, and techniques to work your existence. Not, "ITS THE DEMIURGE WHO CONTROS US, OH NO". That's pointless. In short, you're boring. Nobody is impressed with you.

Essentially it's observing the universe around you, it's natural laws, and placing them onto your psychology and mode of operation. That's really what all religion/belief/meditation/philosophy is though. In all honesty, who really cares what god is if you can't even operate your mind properly. A simple investigation into physics would tell you what you can and can't do with your mind, and even give you the techniques to do them with. Everything operates on the same principal.
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