Michael Moore gets some boos for his Oscar speech

[El Blanco]

As for the "integrity" of the documentary, this doesn't say that Moore lied, it says that Moore simply didn't know, and if anything is guilty of being lazy. Does this make him a liar? I don't think so.

Thats the problem, whether he lied or half assed it, he intentionally misled people. What kind of documentary is that?

Secondly, do you think the folks who live in that area, PARTICULARLY the teenagers who shot up Columbine H.S., knew the details of the plant? I live relatively close to Indian Point power plant in NY. I have NO idea what regions of the state that powers, or even what particular uses they put the power towards. All I know is that it's POWERFUL. Whether or not the missiles had warhead nukes for war is another question. LM DOES make missiles for the purposes of war, maybe not in Littleton, but certainly elsewhere. People DO know that.

A) I'm pretty sure the people who work in the plants have an idea if they are or aren't making missiles.

B) It has little if anything to do with the shooting, no matter what Moore wants people to believe.

I took a look at this guys research, as well as the original NRA transcript. The accusation levied against Moore is that he created a new speech from pieces of Heston's speech. Now if he distorted the words to make Heston imply something else, then I think there's a case here. But when you read the entire Heston transcript, and get to the part where he addresses the mayor, the SAME message of defiance that Moore depicted is still conveyed. Perhaps Moore wanted the same effect in less time. However, the one addition of the "cold dead hands" part is wrong, if true (anybody otherthan this "guy" find this out?).

Did he, or did he not cut and paste to make a new speech? Yes, he did.

I've read the entire speech, I don't see it as that defiant. Then again, I haven't actually seen the speech so I don't know what the tone was.

That aside, it doesn't really change the fact that the NRA still went into Littleton after Columbine to be reactionary and defiant.

He went to fufill an obligation he made to members. He didn't do it to rub it in the noses of the victims and their families. And how reactionary can it be if it is planned years in advance? And it wasn't Littleton, it was Denver. Not a huge difference, until you realize that Denver is a major metro area and huge support center for the NRA.

"Fact: Heston's speech was given at a "get out the vote" rally in Flint, which was held when elections rolled around some eight months after the shooting."

Is 8 months not a short period for that? Do you think everybody in that town had moved on after simply 8 months??

He wasn't campaigning for the NRA. He was encouraging people to vote. I'll give you that he probably threw in some NRA rhetoric, but who doesn't slip in there own beliefs at things like that?

And do you think everyone in town cared after 8 weeks?

How many Klan members do you think were members of the NRA?

Come on. That question is so biased, it nearly sickens me. Do you know that the NRA wants to grant equal Second Amendment protection to everyone? Regardless of race, religion, social standing etc? If you look at a lot of gun control laws, they highly favor the rich and the racists.

How many KKK members do you think belong to AAA? Does either have anything to do with the other?

No. Moore tried to portray the NRA as a bunch of old white racist extremists, which is far from the truth. They have done twice as much for civil rights as that asshole and represent at least 83 million Americans (thats their official membership, anyway). I don't agree with them on a lot of issues, but I certainly have more respect for them than some fake "Hollywood intellectual".

The shame is, I agreed with the original premise of the movie. It was supposed to examine the violent nature in America. But, instead he went on a liberal rant and crying all over the Columbine shooting, while almost entirly ignoring the hundreds of innercity shootings every year. Instead of actually getting the ball rolling on solving the problem, he just went and took the usual potshots everyone else already has.

I was at first shocked to find this won an Oscar for best documentary, but then I realized, these are the same assholes who gave a standing ovation to a fugitive child rapist.