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Old Jul 10th, 2005, 07:38 PM       
I agree with Helm on this one, the definition of external influence is far too broad. It's almost as if stating the obvious. Statistically speaking, ALL suicide is caused by external influences. Hypothetically, even people unhappy with themselves are mostly looking at themselves through an externally posited and influenced social standard, and their failure to satisfactorally live up to an artificial (read: external) influence leads to the ultimate decision.

I could in theory defeat my own argument if you accept certain liberties, such as that in nature lemmings are prone to thoughtlessly throw themselves off cliffs and hillsides (though the scientific validity of this is in somewhat question, and I don't know enough about it to submit it as absolute proof, but food for thought nonetheless.)

Though one could also argue that in nature, animals that are innate loners simply don't kill themselves, but that could also be the lack of intelligence necessary to do so.
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