US soldiers begin to come forward on Routine torture.

[mburbank]

Kelly; Sure, but how many bad apples? Just two? And how far up the chain does it go? Just enlisted men? Sounds to me like there re a lot of unreleased photos. Do only Lyndi and her boyfriend appear in them? They must have been busy.

I don't think it's always been like this. I think bad things havce always happened, this being war which is in inherently crazy behavior. I think this time we have quite deliberately instituted a top down policy designed to be deliberately vague on standards of treatment and turn a blind eye unless their is incontravertable evidence. This is bad leadership, and I don't just mean incompetant, I mean evil.

This is an administration which deep down beieves torture works and dreams of movie like scenarios where only they can bludgeon some last minute info out of a truly evil person and save a city. It's a sick fantasy.

Plus, you need to keep in mind that even we admit this shit is routinely happening to completely innocent people. When we eventually let them go and they limp back into the community, what do yiou think that does for us.

I'm not saying thuis shit doesn't happen. I'm saying getting on top of it has to be a top priority, and if that means frying people above the rank of sargeant, lets get to it.