"Who knows whether or not these people have truly been sinful? YOU?"
Didn't you, in one of your previous posts, say christians admit they and everyone are sinful? Jesus.
"Do you truly believe that Christians should be perfect people?"
No, I don't believe that at all, and in all honesty I doubt that it could be accomplished. However, I do believe at least a strive for your full potential isn't something to complain about. Do you? Do you like wasted potential? "What about Matthew 25:14-30? " :Lol jackass. Remember, he's slothful because he does not use his talents out of fear.
"No, thank God that GOD decides who has sinned and who hasn't, as well as who shall be forgiven and not forgiven"
Everybody sinned, remember? We've been living on adams sin since he sinned, duh
This was distinctly about myself, and my own standards. Hence the usage of the word PERSONALLY before hand. I think that type of judgement comes from within, anyway. How could God be satisfied with you if you're not satisfied with yourself? I think it's a noble trait to have. I'm still not satisfied with myself, however, i think the state at which we receive god's grace or whatever is when we've attained some form of satisfaction. How do you gain that, though? I think that may apply.
"Does this imply to you that people who sin will not go to Heaven? "
Nope.
"WHAT!!? WHAT THE HELL DOES IT EXPRESS!!??? "
That the grace of God comes through attempting to make yourself a better person, like christ, who's personality and lifestyle are at least on a path that attempts to avoid sin(This can be HARD), rather than just floating along doing whatever, actually THINKING ABOUT IT, and attempting to change. Try that, for once. Remember, repentence means Seeking CONTRITION.
"Does God expect that Christians will never sin?"
No, but does he expect that they will try not to?
That's one sentance.
"You're amazing."
Definition of Arbitrary: Determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle: stopped at the first motel we passed, an arbitrary choice.
"I'll just let that stand on its own in bold. "
And oh how my ego shakes in it's torrent.
"Have you decided that those people aren't good Christians? Now who's job is that, Kahl?"
Who's job? I don't know, the pope or something? I've heard of people being excommunicated from the church before, doesn't that mean they don't get their last rights so they can't go to heaven? It's plain to my eyes that they aren't good christians if they aren't at least trying not to sin. Again, that's what REPENTANCE is. And again, I know ALOT OF THEM try, at the very least, which I think is noble enough not to deserve hell. But does it deserve heaven?
"Who forgives, Kahl???"
Keep saying this, but despite all that, I'm condemning no one. Rather, I'm merely expressing the guidelines God himself expressed in his Holy God's Word as to what he needs to forgive someone. Forgiveness is more self-forgiveness, again, how could God forgive you if you can't forgive yourself? Ever notice how some people self-perpetuate themselves into bad situations? Self-perpetuate themselves into sin and more sin?
How can god forgive you if you don't honestly ask for forgiveness? Wanting forgiveness means you DIDNT WANT TO DO IT and you WONT DO IT AGAIN which demands, inherently, some kind of CHANGE.
"Who can be a perfected image of Christ, Kahl?"
Christ, ezekial, Isiah, Esther.. um.. Osiris, balder... I don't expect every human being to be jesus christ, but to at least try. Who knows, then it may become possible to become jesus christ if enough people tried to be decent.
"And there's a difference between generalizations in politics and in spirituality. If I say "African-American males in DC are inclined to vote Democratic," there's hard data to support me on that."
"People who believe in christianity are more likely to be hypocrites" "people who believe in christianity are more likely to not live to their own standards"
"People who believe in christianity are more likely to feel that everything they do is okay because they have God's forgiveness"
lol, hey, as long as we have god's forgiveness in the end let's go kill some people with that in mind God will love us for that.
"What about Matthew 25: 14-30? "
That's a story about using what's given to you if I remember right. That fits into exactly my point: "People, especially christians, are incredibly likely" to not even TRY to be christ-like(except at arbitrary points). If you used your abilities as a human being, like reasoning and rationality, eventually you could decipher what's right and wrong, and try to make yourself adhere to them. THAT is being Christ-like, and that is what i have been talking about all this time.
The fact that every once in a while even bad people try to be good means nothing. There's more I could say, but i need to start cooking lunch.
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