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Old Dec 6th, 2005, 06:17 PM       
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Does my contention ring true at all to you that the Goliath of Science, based in actual facts, shouldn't be still going toe to toe with the David of Religion on this? The biggest black eye that evolutionism has is that it has yet to find a way to silence it's critics that are based in ignorance and superstitious ideas.
How hard is it to write a book? How easy is it to burn a book because you don't like what's written in it? How hard is it to prove that my invisible buddy up in space didn't make everything that exists 50 years ago, and since my invisible buddy is also omnipotent, and a bit of an asshole, he made everything to look just as if it had a history before that 50 years, even going so far as to create MEMORIES in every living being? I CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVE MY INVISIBLE ASSHOLE GOD DID NOT DO THIS!

As long as the bulk of the critics' loudest complaint is "WELL IT AINT IN *MY* BIBLE" - they'll never be silenced in a society with freedom of religion. And I don't really mind that either, as long as I'm free to think they're retarded fuckfaces.

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nobody's really running around doubting the Big Bang, planet orbits, black holes, dinosaurs, cloning, genetics or just about anything else regarded as scientific fact. Isn't that odd?
What? I doubt most Creationists believe in the Big Bang. Literal creationists don't believe in dinosaurs either - I had a teacher in my private school days who said the Devil put dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us. I'm not fucking kidding. Church of Christ, baby. If it ain't in the Bible, it ain't Godly.

But anyone willing to make room for things not explicitly stated in Genesis should have no more trouble reconciling evolution than the Big Bang with their faith. I had another teacher at this same school who had no problem teaching evolution in Biology. Cuz he figured what difference did it make to his faith if perhaps God CREATED evolution? Wowzers, there's a chicken vs. egg argument!

The main dig here, and this is something that a lot of people don't understand, is that evolution/common descent isn't 100% certain fact. It never can be. BUT should there be EVIDENCE to support an alternative theory, and to refute common descent, the principes of scientific review allow a mechanism to accept this new evidence, and change science itself. This is something Religion has a hard time doing. Rather than change, the zealot will suppress new findings. This can be true of individual scientists, who are perhaps vain regarding their own theories, but in general new evidence is quickly assimilated by the scientific community.

In the end though, there will ALWAYS be people who look to religion to explain the things they don't understand. There will even be people who make a religion of science, and I am certainly NOT advocating that behavior. If you wish to learn, then educate yourself. If you wish to be persuaded through demagoguery and fallacious syllogisms, by all means, latch onto the pseudoscience of Intelligent Design. Or pick some third wacky libertarian origin theory if it makes you happy.

I really don't give a fuck what you wish to think. But it's a fun bit of distraction, innit?
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