Koran & Murder Case

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"Do you know how he gained his popularity at first? He promised modernization. "

Ahmednijad's roll in the hostage crisis wasn't enough indication of his ideals?

"The Islamic Sharia law is exactly what's wrong with the Middle East, because it's ruining how "outsiders" perceive Islam."

When we talk about Shari'a laws we're talking about the negative aspects of it...stonings, etc. There is something inherently wrong about murder and it has nothing to do with how outsiders percieve or possibly even misconstrue it. That was a telling statement you made.


"3) He forgave a Jewish woman called Hind from his tribe who killed his uncle Hamza (who was also one of his biggest supporters.) She also ate his kidney in front of the Prophet as an insult. She later converted to Islam. "

Really not a great story to use as an example of tolerance or how Jews are your cousins.

"they said it's shady that a Jew would translate the Koran and yet you feel like they'd do it without being biased at ALL (ha!)"

What's shady is the assumption that all linguists work from a national or religious bias. The translators personal background shouldn't be a factor. Either it's accurate, or it's not. Since we essentially agree the Koran can not be translated to English without variation , and that many of these translations warrant debate of interpretation, it goes much deeper then that. There are certainly Muslims for which that more extreme translation is accurate. Again, your concern over these translations is really one of perception from outsiders...but the greater concern is the accpetance of these thoughts within your own community. We both know issues like "is it okayto beat your woman" are commonly discussed on Islamic web forums. That it's even still a question, is a source of outrage.


"If it's against the beliefs of their religions, then they should know the consequences of participating in a homosexual relationship. The Koran promotes freedom of decision and independence."

This is a different style of thinking altogether, which to Western minds reads like a contradiction. You say homosexuality has consequences, yet in the next breath, you say the Koran promotes their independence....independence to what... commit acts which will lead to further consequences. So it turns out there isn't such a contradiction in that case after all, and the freedom, and independence does not offer forgiveness of protection for the Islamic homosexual.