Americans and the "immigration debate"

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Originally Posted by kahljorn

Another of their complaints seems to be that if they were legal citizens then employers would supposedly take money out of their paychecks. This is seriously a complaint I've heard. Yea, well no shit, they are called taxes you jackasses. Everybody but your illegal family members pay them to support the government.

well yes and no. being that we assume that most of them are working jobs off the books... they probably wouldnt be getting taxed either way. so illegal or legal it doesnt matter. unless theyre working at taco bell or some job where theyd be paying income tax already it really wouldnt make much of a difference.

Originally Posted by mburbank

Rightly or wrongly, a LOT of low cost labor in this country is done by illegals, and it's not the sort of work people are clamoring for. If we roundup the illegals, someone is going to need to do that work, and mostly citizens won't do it for the wage illegals will. I'd like to see that ystem reformed, personally, since I thnk paying people who are scared of being thrown in jail substandard wages is pretty harsh, but if you're only going to pay legals (and all the other fees you have to pay if you're obeying the law) that's going to have some far reaching effects we ought to think about and plan for.

i would take their fucking job in a second. i have people hire mexicans who work on my house all the time and they get paid better than i do. granted they work a lot harder than i do but still its not like its not competitive. the only reason i dont stand on the street corner trying to get picked up by guys is because i dont fit in with a bunch of spanish speaking older men. plus i never could pick up guys. teenage and college kids would do the same work though. i cant see how that arguement makes sense economically. kids get paid like $6.00 an hour to work shitty jobs as is. white kids might possibly get some sort of insurance if they got hurt and ma/pa probably wouldnt let them get their legs chopped off but i dont know... off the books jobs are pretty shady.