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Old Apr 23rd, 2006, 01:54 AM       
Soul and Spirit are different things to them(i think to everyone), in fact I think soul is just a part of spirit. Maybe that's more of a rosicrucian idea, but I'm pretty sure it's gnostic. To them the spirit is what people call the soul. While looking through sites I saw alot of mentions about the gospel of judas talking about the blood as the soul, so that might be worth a read.

Deuteronomy 12:23-25 is supposed to be about it, but i couldn't find a translation that said soul, they all said life(that's addressed at the end of this post).

Here's a catholic encyclopedia, not sure how accurate it is:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14153a.htm

Quote:
... it is evident that the Old Testament throughout either asserts or implies the distinct reality of the soul. An important contribution to later Jewish thought was the infusion of Platonism into it by Philo of Alexandria. He taught the immediately Divine origin of the soul, its pre-existence and transmigration; he contrasts the pneuma, or spiritual essence, with the soul proper, the source of vital phenomena, whose seat is the blood; finally he revived the old Platonic Dualism, attributing the origin of sin and evil to the union of spirit with matter.
Like I said, plato's philosophies and gnosticism are pretty much the same thing. I didn't read that whole link so who knows what else is on there.

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16. It is the same for them who go out from the body.

"For when the soul withdraws into itself, the spirit doth contract itself within the blood, and the soul within the spirit. And then the mind, stripped of its wrappings, and naturally divine, taking unto itself a fiery body, doth traverse every space, after abandoning the soul unto its judgement and whatever chastisement it hath deserved. "
That's from the corpus hermeticum, I know it's not direct and the terminology is kind of odd but it works sort of. Hard to find things for this on the internet, blood and soul are very popular words.
If you're going to read the corpus hermeticum try to find the narrative version, personally I think it's a much better writing and it's not tainted by the christian church(because it seems pretty tainted for a supposedly pagan writing).

This looks like an interesting read on the soul

It's funny because it even talks about the breath being the spirit. Look up pranayama of the hindus.

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Just as thee divine illustration of the spirit was in the breath, so we have the divine picture of the soul in the blood. Much has been lost by the arbitrary change of the word soul to "life" in the passages where this is clearly taught. Notice how the two are used together in Genesis 9:4. "Yea, only flesh with its soul, its blood, you shall not eat" (CV). This truth is again emphasized in the phrase, "for the soul of all flesh, it is in the blood" (Lev.17:11, CV). And again, "...for the soul of all flesh is its blood. It is in its soul ...for the soul of all flesh, its blood is it" (Lev.17:14, CV).

Now, why should the blood be chosen to picture the soul to us? We have already seen that the soul has its origin, not in the body merely, nor yet in the spirit alone, but in their combination. And what could better portray this than the blood? It is fed from food by means of assimilation and thus is linked to the body and the soil; it is fed from the air by means of respiration and is thus linked to the breath and spirit."
Ziggy I hope you're reading this because some of the verses, like in Deuteronomy leviticus and genesis , talk about why you shouldn't eat meat(or in this case blood). I can't remember the exact versus anymore, i just saw them when I was looking for this information and didn't think of you until after.

Like I've mentioned before I don't really see much of a distinction between gnosticism and christianity. The distinction was created by the church. To be entirely honest, I don't really see much of a distinction between any religions. They all pretty much say the same thing in different ways to me. Stuff like this is a good example.
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