the boogeymen of al Qaeda

[Geggy]

Thought I'd post this to support my hypothesis of Bin Laden and leader number 2 being used as boogeymen by the white house to keep the public locked down with fear.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...900890_pf.html

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Geggy, is Zarqawi a real person?

Geggy, does the article state that Zarqawi is not engaging in insurgent activity in Iraq?

Geggy, how does this in any way validate your asinine theory?

Geggy, did you take the red pill or the blue pill today?

[Spectre X]

We should ask him if he took the pill his doctor told him to take, if he took one at all.

[Geggy]

Oh kevin you're just mad because it's becoming more evident that I may be right. Thank god for "the matrix" otherwise I wouldn't see the bush administration for the way they are.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Ok

[ItalianStereotype]

ahahahaha

[Abcdxxxx]

Why haven't The Zionists disposed of you yet? You know too much!

[Geggy]

I can't help if your media controlling zionist friends haven't taken this article off the internet before anyone else sees it...

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/polit...750279,00.html

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Geggy, did people die in London?

Geggy, were they killed by terrorists? Who killed them Geggy?

The notion of a centralized, monolithic "Al Qaeda" is erronious, and it's also aside from the point. After we broke up whatever structure they had in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda became more like a franchise. Every small-time extremist can take the banner and cary it like Subway.

The problem isn't Al Qaeda Geggy, the problem is radical Islam.

[Ant10708]

Originally Posted by Geggy

Thought I'd post this to support my hypothesis of Bin Laden and leader number 2 being used as boogeymen by the white house to keep the public locked down with fear.

Isn't that what you kind of do with Bush and Cheny and company? Just your propaganda isn't as far reaching.

[Geggy]

That's the exact opposite of what I'm doing. I just like to play cops and robbers.

Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore

Geggy, did people die in London?

Geggy, were they killed by terrorists? Who killed them Geggy?

I'm in no way of denying that anyone had been killed in the london bombing.

The notion of a centralized, monolithic "Al Qaeda" is erronious, and it's also aside from the point. After we broke up whatever structure they had in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda became more like a franchise. Every small-time extremist can take the banner and cary it like Subway.

The problem isn't Al Qaeda Geggy, the problem is radical Islam.

Interesting. Maybe the cia is the real problem.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...688310,00.html

[Abcdxxxx]

Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore

Al Qaeda became more like a franchise. Every small-time extremist can take the banner and cary it like Subway.

Kind of like how Geggy is a satellite for the Stormfront rhetoric of the month club.

Anyway, how much does it matter if it's Al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, the Muslim Brotherhood, or just some crazed religious extremists working on their own accord? It's all the same ideology. The banner in which they work under can change daily. It's interesting to keep track of, but it's no big aha! moment.

[Geggy]

Bumpity bump

[ItalianStereotype]

why, because you're out of your mind?

[KevinTheOmnivore]

So was it not Zarqawi who we killed? Was it a clone, or maybe a robot???

[sspadowsky]

I've been watching this one from the sidelines for a while, and I think Geggy is getting more of a ball-busting from you guys than he deserves.

I'm not really a conspiracy theorist. I consider myself a cynic. I question pretty much anything the government tells me, and assume they are virtually always lying, at least in part, with every public utterance.

Was the government behind 9/11? I don't know, and frankly, I don't give a shit. We will never, ever know, just like we'll never know for sure who killed Kennedy, etc., etc. But it's really not as absurd an idea as some of you like to make it sound.

I'm sure at least some of you have heard of Project Northwoods. For those of you who haven't, it was a plan put together by the Pentagon back in the early 60s. The idea was to engineer "terrorist" attacks- completely inside jobs, perpetrated against Americans by their own government- to garner support for an invasion of Cuba.

This is not conspiracy nonsense. This is well-documented, irrefutable fact, and easy to find on the web. It made it all the way to the Joint Chiefs of Staff before it was finally shot down.

The point is, if they were seriously formulating plans for this sort of thing 45 years ago, why is it such a silly notion now?

[Ant10708]

THEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by sspadowsky

Was the government behind 9/11? I don't know, and frankly, I don't give a shit. We will never, ever know, just like we'll never know for sure who killed Kennedy, etc., etc. But it's really not as absurd an idea as some of you like to make it sound.

uhh, except that we do know, Sspad. See the 9/11 and "Pentagon" threads if you need references.

We know who the hijackers were, what ties they had, and that their efforts were coordinated. we know that efforts by like-minded individuals have been carried out in Turkey, England, Spain, and all over.

So yeah, we have a prettygood idea, and the burden rests on those of you convinced that it's such an open case. it isn't.

I'm sure at least some of you have heard of Project Northwoods. For those of you who haven't, it was a plan put together by the Pentagon back in the early 60s. The idea was to engineer "terrorist" attacks- completely inside jobs, perpetrated against Americans by their own government- to garner support for an invasion of Cuba.

And the guy who proposed that plan, General Lemnitzer, was removed from the Joint Chiefs by kennedy shortly after this plan was proposed.

Also, that proposal went as far as to say they could sink ships and blow up empty drone planes, even hold mock funerals for the "victims". You can read the entire memo here.

So, even duringthe height of the Cold War, these Cold Warriors hesitated to take one American life in this screwy plan.

Roughly 3,000 Americans died on 9/11. What you and Geggy are leaving open as a possibility goes far beyond this project, and requires a hell of a lot more substantiation on your parts.

[sspadowsky]

I'm not going to get into a protracted argument about this, Kevin. You're probably right, and I have no doubt that you've read up on it far more extensively than I have. All I'm saying is, the fact that Project Northwoods ever even existed gives us all reason to consider the possibility that, even if something like that hasn't happened yet, it still could- especially since the power-hungry sociopaths running the show now are probably exponentially worse than the power-hungry sociopaths running the show in 1962.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but please don't ask me to not call out Geggy and ranxer for their bullshit. We give entire sticky threads to the lunacy of VinceZeb and KulturKampf.....Geggy alone is full of priceless quotes, but I stick to simply asking that he properly support his claims.

[Geggy]

SILENCE!

I think we need to go back to the time when operation paperclip had been converted into CIA's project MKULTRA after the US had secretly transferred the 500 nazi scientists from germany to america during post-WWII...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

Report that Zarqawi already died last september of 2005...

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayA...on=focusoniraq

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by Geggy

I think we need to go back to the time when operation paperclip had been converted into CIA's project MKULTRA after the US had secretly transferred the 500 nazi scientists from germany to america during post-WWII...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

I think we need to talk about a little thing called relevance. How does this prove that the government is capable of killing 3,000+ of its own citizens??? Hmm?

Report that Zarqawi already died last september of 2005...

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayA...on=focusoniraq

"Zarqawi is dead, claims Baghdad imam"

Do I need to proceed, or what? Are you done yet?

[Ant10708]

I think he might desperatly shoot one more load on the wall.

[Kulturkampf]

there is a necessity to win hearts and minds, and in a place that has never had free press and where now pro-US media outlets are bombed daily, there is a need for us to be encouraging and to try to get a foothold in the hearts and minds.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

uhhh....