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Old Jun 7th, 2006, 10:18 PM       
I don't think you can follow sense, or reality for that matter. Presidents come from hard fought campaigns, good circumstances, money, support, anf fairy dust.

What bothers me about your whole perspective on campaigns is that you seem to think it's still a bunch of men smoking cigars in a back room making the call. it hasn't been like that for a long time, but to make matters worse, you can't even tell me who these mythical cigar smokers in the room ARE!

Name a popular campaign forthe presidency,or for congress, and I can probably tell you about the work and sweat that person put into it to win. That doesn't make them a good person, or the right person, or my favoritest person. it just is what it is.

I think Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton are fantastic examples. Both of these men, despite whatever negative things they may be remembered for, never had any victories (with the exception, maybe, of '72) handed to them on a silver platter. Both these men were tireless campaigners, and not always very popular even within their own parties. They still clawed their way towards what they wanted.

This doesn't make them good people, good leaders, or even people that I would vote for. It again, simply is what it is.

As for Newt-- he interests me. I think the Right is screaming in 2008 for a Dean-type of personality to mix up the deck, and perhaps reshape the debate (if anyone can recall, prior to Dean, not too many Dems were quick to talk about Iraq and withdrawal possibilities).

I personally think someone like Brownback could also be this niche darkhorse, bt he would need to do a lot b/f that could happen. Newt already has the policy ideas, I just think he lacks any rea support beyond very small sub-groups and ideologues.
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