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Old Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:42 PM       
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...but since the United States created the Al Qaeda terrorist network, has complete control over it and its members, why didn't they hire Iraqi hijackers and actually give themselves the "proof" they need?
Yeah find an iraqi who is willing to learn how to fly planes and sacrifice themselves by crashing it into buildings for the interest of the US.

Rumsfled rushed into the war room literally right after the attack took place and called for immediate military deployment in Iraq. How would he have known right away that Iraq/Saddam was involved? They've been pushing the Saddam and 9/11 connection until it was discovered there was none. Of course they were forced to brew the WMD lies as justification to invade Iraq, and it worked.

Bin laden, white house's number one boogeyman, was named the culprit within 4 hours yet he denied any involvement in the month after 9/11. I've not seen one convincing evidence pointing his guilt. Even if he has called for holy war against the US before 9/11 and he did say he was responsible for the attacks in audio tapes, why doesnt the FBI use it as an evidence to indict osama?

Let me back up to OKC bombing, in the book "culture of fear" by barry glassner, it stated that 70 percent of american initially thought muslims were responsible of the bombing before the real perpetrator was caught.

Like i said in the other thread, when people are frightened, they become more passive and more susceptible to propaganda. They are willing to cling on higher authority to keep them safe and believe in whatever is told. That's why Bush approval rating went up to "record breaking" 90 percent at the time. Repetive images of Osama, planes crashing into the towers and wtc collaspe were shown on TV for months during the aftermath to keep them locked down on fear, resentment toward the "culprit" and emotional distress to make it all a blur for them to see the bigger picture.
This is the most intelligent post you've had in some time cause I agree 100% with ost of it.

The rush to blame saddam and rumours about it were rampant. Saddam being one of ou biggest enemies who had espoused terror it seemed only logical he was espousing THIS terror attack, but of course he was not.

I think the Iraq war whether you supprt it or not, has little to nothing to do with 9/11. I think it's more because of his crimes against humanity and our desire to make the middle east in general more moderate.

9/11 and Al Qaeda has no link with Iraq that's obvious now, which doesn't mean nessacarily that Saddam has nothing to do with other terrorism movements, just that he has nothing to do with ones that have been successfully attcking us, but he did constantly encourage attacks on our interests and calling us the Great Satan, so I do believe he may have been a threat eventually, but in general I think we went in to stop him from his crimes against humanity. I think we can all agree he's guilty of that at least.

However recently I'm wondering if the cost was to high, but now that we have dug in leaving is only gonna cause more trouble and death.

Of course I do unflinchingly support the war in afgahnistan as the taliban was openly supporting al qaeda.
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