Oct 6th, 2006, 01:51 PM
Ah, now that article makes more sense to me- i hadn't read that poem. Still, that was a bad article with the obvious intent of stirring up emotions rather than informing people about anything. It's so hard for me to even believe 90% of the things people say about this bill because I doubt most people have read it. Also I'm used to people exagerrating everything to make the republicans look worse than they are.
No oversight makes absolutely no sense to me. I thought the reason they had this bill wasn't so they could capture anyone they want but capture them anytime and anywhere. Warrantless searches, arrests and such which makes sense to me if you're trying to catch terrorists whom are known to be slippery fish.
So is there seriously no oversight? I thought they had a military trial?
I thought the term MILITARY COMMISION implied trials. I'm reading the law and the second section "Military commision" is talking about military trials and the rights people have who are captured under this law.
Here's the law:
`Sec. 948b. Military commissions generally
`(a) Purpose- This chapter establishes procedures governing the use of military commissions to try alien unlawful enemy combatants engaged in hostilities against the United States for violations of the law of war and other offenses triable by military commission.
`(b) Authority for Military Commissions Under This Chapter- The President is authorized to establish military commissions under this chapter for offenses triable by military commission as provided in this chapter.
`(c) Construction of Provisions- The procedures for military commissions set forth in this chapter are based upon the procedures for trial by general courts-martial under chapter 47 of this title (the Uniform Code of Military Justice). Chapter 47 of this title does not, by its terms, apply to trial by military commission except as specifically provided in this chapter. The judicial construction and application of that chapter are not binding on military commissions established under this chapter.
`(d) Inapplicability of Certain Provisions- (1) The following provisions of this title shall not apply to trial by military commission under this chapter:
`(A) Section 810 (article 10 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), relating to speedy trial, including any rule of courts-martial relating to speedy trial.
`(B) Sections 831(a), (b), and (d) (articles 31(a), (b), and (d) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), relating to compulsory self-incrimination.
`(C) Section 832 (article 32 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), relating to pretrial investigation.
`(2) Other provisions of chapter 47 of this title shall apply to trial by military commission under this chapter only to the extent provided by this chapter.
`(e) Treatment of Rulings and Precedents- The findings, holdings, interpretations, and other precedents of military commissions under this chapter may not be introduced or considered in any hearing, trial, or other proceeding of a court-martial convened under chapter 47 of this title. The findings, holdings, interpretations, and other precedents of military commissions under this chapter may not form the basis of any holding, decision, or other determination of a court-martial convened under that chapter.
`(f) Status of Commissions Under Common Article 3- A military commission established under this chapter is a regularly constituted court, affording all the necessary `judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples' for purposes of common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions.
`(g) Geneva Conventions Not Establishing Source of Rights- No alien unlawful enemy combatant subject to trial by military commission under this chapter may invoke the Geneva Conventions as a source of rights.
Now I'm not the best at reading law, but I did see some strange bits in there (no 'findings' are admitted to the trial, do they judge it on actions alone? What the hell does that even mean?) . Still, there IS a trial.
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