What happens when you shit where you eat?

[kahljorn]

yea because countries that have one hundred thousand people (or whatever third world countries have) are going to create more waste problems than countries that have a 300 million.
I've never heard of a non-industrial nation creating ridiculous amounts of waste/pollution(not that they don't have any but it's alot easier to manage). Probably for a couple of reasons, A) third world countries don't have lots of technology B) Third world countries usually eat farm food instead of processed and C) there's not millions of people shitting everywhere in third world countries and their ecology can handle the amount of shit they have.
It's nice that we're trying to slowly become green but that doesn't mean the problem is gone and it doesn't mean the problem will be resolved.

uh, and those "Third world countries"(i really don't think you meant third world countries i think you meant other industruous nations that don't have environmental ordinances and such) that are "the problem" they would also suffer from industry, centralization and overpopulation.

"population growth is taken into consideration when having to deal with how much poop and waste has to be handled. "

So because they know how much poop they are handling the problem of too much waste is resolved? thanks for simplifying things.
Do you think I was saying that we have too much shit for our water treatment plants to handle? That's not what I was saying at all. What I was saying is that we already have too many people creating too much waste and there's no proper method of handling it or controlling it, because believe it or not forcing all of your trash and waste into the ocean or into rural areas doesn't make the waste problem disappear(hat's why i said we like to sweep our trash under the rug), because waste doesn't just disappear magically. It has to Biodegrade which often takes time, and non biological things don't biodegrade very well.
Furthermore, the amount of waste we produce in proportion to the time it takes to biodegrade has gotten to the point where we produce more waste than is being biodegraded. I hope that last statement clarified my position.

the one thing ill concede is that technological advances make cleaner, more efficient living possible.. but that's pretty much been the point of what I was saying when I said things like, "Industry is a transitional phase." We have to use that technology for it to help, though.