Drugs for mental/spiritual exploration

[Protoclown]

Burbank made me

And I'm not saying that art created on drugs has no merit whatsoever, but I personally would feel like I "cheated" if I created something that came from drugs rather than purely straight from me, you know?

[Vibecrewangel]

Damn you Max....

I spit yogurt all over my desk......


And I hate crank.....in fact I really don't like any amphetamine....even caffeine makes me moody as hell. Okay...insta-bitch is a better term.

[Miss Modular]

Wow, Vibe, I've really enjoyed reading your posts. You actually seem to offer some real insights into why someone might take psychedelics, instead of just, "Whoa!!! It was an intense experience!!!" If any of you have read Bluelight, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

I've actually considered taking psychedelics. I'm really not interested in taking it right now, mostly because I have a ton of other things to worry about. Besides, I wouldn't do it without someone who's had actually had experience, and it's nothing I'd do at a party.

[mburbank]

Hey, Vibe, don't knock metaphetamines until you've tried them and tried them and tried them and sold everything you had becuase you understand now that sleep is what keeps human beings from EVOLVING INTO BEING CRANK FULED CREATURES OF PURE ENERGY!

Vince. Never, never has anyone so completely understood what I was saying to them. I'm moved. Seriously. You? The wind beneath my wings. No shit. You see right through me.

I've been called a lot of things in my life, but Bland is a new one. Are you sure your using the right word?

And Laws, Vince, SOMEBODY has to make fun of you. Otherwise you'd be doing it all by yourself.

[Vibecrewangel]

Thanks Mod. I really believe in responsible drug use. This means being honest about both the negative and the positive aspects of things. Lying about either side is part of what gets people killed.
That whole E is perfectly safe thing is a load of crap. However, real MDMA is not as dangerous as the anti-drug people would have you think. Generally it is the cut that get's ya.

I really do dislike the whole party mentality. Though I will admit my first time was E at a massive. Not that cool. I prefer a safe environment. I don't drop at "normal" raves any more. Though with the Psytrance crowd it is a very different thing.

[sadie]

there's something to be said for brevity, vince.

and am i missing something from another thread? i know i haven't been frequenting this forum in the last while, but i don't see where max did anything but point out your race-related descriptions.

[Protoclown]

Originally Posted by mburbank

And Laws, Vince, SOMEBODY has to make fun of you. Otherwise you'd be doing it all by yourself.

[Vibecrewangel]

Christ Max......I tried to kill people because the Hydroxycut was too speedy. F'n ephedra and caff.

Of course.....maybe enough crank and it would be like that movie Powder (get it hahahah) where the albino guy turns into pure light.


Yeah...enough speed and I might become pure light.

[Anonymous]

Some people take drugs to have hallucinations
Some people take drugs to stop having hallucinations
Everyone always wants what they don't have! Like curly hair and straight hair. What a crazy mixed up world!


Anyway, Max you are just fantastic.

[Vibecrewangel]

Sadie - Cool link!

Mod - Bluelight is full of party head morons. Dancesafe is better for checking on pills and Erowid is better for general information.

Proto - Totally understand! Art is all about perception. Including that of the artist. If it feels less real to the artist because of how it was created than that is what it is to the only person who matters.

[mburbank]

You didn't see it 'cause I didn't do it.

This is all Vince's interpretation of my thoughts.

I'd like it better if it was an interpretive dance, but we can't have everything.

[mburbank]

This thread is going too fast!

MUST! HAVE! MORE! CRANK!


I'm kidding about the crank.



That stuff is for itty bitty babies.



Doopa is sweet. So are Vibe and Sadie. I'd say proto was sweet too but that is homo and if I'm not about hating the homo, what am I about. Vince is a shaved ape.

[glowbelly]

butt sex is fun

[Vibecrewangel]

Butt sex GOOD
Crank BAD

[Vibecrewangel]

Doopa made me lol

[FS]

Originally Posted by Protoclown

And I'm not saying that art created on drugs has no merit whatsoever, but I personally would feel like I "cheated" if I created something that came from drugs rather than purely straight from me, you know?

All depends on the perspective, I think. My theory on hallucinogenic drugs is something along the lines of, your subconscious taking the wheel of your imagination and putting the pedal to the metal. To me, the drugs are only stimulants and don't do anything but tap into parts of your mind and boost them.

I wouldn't, however, expect something brilliant to come out of it, as if we're all geniuses under the right stimulation. What you make under the influence would probably be nothing more than weird... but probably also very, very original.

[Protoclown]

I can understand that, FatSatan...but I just want to challenge myself to come up with creative shit on my own, without any of that kind of help. I guess it all really does come down to what our individual perceptions are. But I personally could not be satisfied with coming up with ideas if I did it while under the influence of some drug.

And to address what Doopa said...I WANT STRAIGHT HAIR

[Anonymous]

get a straightening iron

[VinceZeb]

Ouch! Max called me a shaved ape. What's more pathetic, Max? A 22 year old hanging out on a board with others of his same age, or a 40+ year old hanging out with 20-somethings on a message board?

Had to speel something correctly. Thanks for pointing that out, gw.

[Protoclown]

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

What's more pathetic, Max? A 22 year old hanging out on a board with others of his same age, or a 40+ year old hanging out with 20-somethings on a message board?

I'll go with "whichever one you are". That answer seems to work.

[glowbelly]

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

Ouch! Max called me a saved ape.

[mburbank]

He's saying 'ouch' because those cuts sting like the bejesus when you salve up.

"What's more pathetic, Max? A 22 year old hanging out on a board with others of his same age, or a 40+ year old hanging out with 20-somethings on a message board? "

Good question, Vince. What's more pathetic? A well spoken 40 year old (and I'm not even the oldest one here anymore, thanks) hanging out in an intelligent community and not caring overmuch how old folks are as long as they've got something to say, sharpening his writing skills, entertaining friends and learning things...

or...

a 22 year old who shares only average age with a community that finds him ignorant, laughable, mean spirited and possibly insane and in all probabilty a pathalogical liar? Before you leap to defend yourself aginst these charges, I'm just saying, that's the general view of the community you find yourslef in. You'll clkaim you don't care, it's just for fun, and yet, here you are, a laughingstock.

I'm so stumped. Which IS more pathetic?

[kellychaos]

You ever try and kill a snake Max? My brother and I killed a snake and it took hours and hours too die. Even though it looked dead, it's heart was still beating. I hope that inspires you a bit in your crusade. Eye of the tiger Max ... eye of the tiger!

[sadie]

vince, you've spouted so much off-topic, stupid-to-the-point-of-questionable-sanity shit, you could forevermore copy and paste from that nice little thread of quotes someone so kindly made you. or better yet, you could just let me velcro your fat arse there.

[VinceZeb]

Yes, but there is a huge difference between you and me, Max. You care about this place and I could give a shit less.