Rachel Corrie

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx

No Kevin, I care about the image that has been created for her upon her death...the one of a human shield poster child. HER DEATH *WAS* POLITICAL!!!!! Ask your friends what's honorable about the discrepencies in the photographs on their website? What's honorable about lying and forgeries? What's honorable about having your friends publish the photos of your cracked open head on a website?

The exploitative actions have NOTHING to do with the tragedy of her death. I didn't say I have ANY problems with the IDF making a cae for themselves in their own defense, what I DO oppose is the attempt by SOME to demonize her character in order to justify her horrible death.

Speaking of that, what is wrong with publishing photos of her corpse? Do people wishing to show the gravity and horror of terrorism in Israel not show images of victimes from Palestinian bombings?? Are these "dishonorable" actions, or an attempt to make people SEE the horror involved in these actions....?

Maybe it's honorable if you believe she went there to die, or ready to die...but for what cause? Peace? Are you teaching peace when you lead young school children into a symbolic burning of the American and Israeli flag? it's her right, but it's not a gesture of coexistance.

This was an action she did on her own, as her RIGHT. This however was not her JOB. Her job entailed paper work, coordinating meals, keeping records, etc. etc.

This girl went over there to help a struggling people. Whether or not you agree with her political perspective on the matter is your choice, I probably wouldn't agree with her completely, either. The fact of the matter is however that she went over there in the name of peace. She went over there to help. She did NOT go over there to support militants.

She was quoted as saying what a beautiful thing it was to sucide bomb.

Where? By the slander squads behind the IDF who would like to justify any brutal act as long as it's done by the "right" people, namely the IDF...? WHERE and WHEN did she say this? WHO cited this?

You're wrong. The White House has already pledged they will follow up with an investigation, and Israel has already started one of their own. (and yes Israel has punished soldiers that acted out in the past). Has there been a single investigation on the Americans that have died at the hands of suicide bombs? Nope. Jewish life is apparently cheap. Has there ever been a conclusive investigation for the US diplomat killed at the hands of Arafat, who the ISM acted as human shields to defend ??

There's much the U.S. has stood back and chosen inaction on. How about all of the UN resolutions Israel is supposed to be in violation of??? (NOTE: I already know your predictable next statement, but before you question the validity of some of these obviously stupid resolutions against Israel, keep in mind that there are at least SOME that even the U.S. support, Israeli actions that the U.S. condemns yet refuse to act upon. The surrounding of Arafat's compound being one of them).

When did the U.S. open an investigation? Who is conducting it? The IDF were seemingly cleared immediately of any wrong doing. Who conducted that investigation, the IDF!!?

Also - when you speak of the priests inside the Church of Nativity you're talking about different fueding factions who all have their own political agendas. The ISM were described as drinking and defacing the church. They wouldn't leave even after negotiations were settled.

Who accused the ISM of this? It's funny, the condemnation of these people often seems to come from people who are ultimately their political rivals. What a shock! Were the priests with their "agenda" on Christmas Eve just "lobbying" for power within the strong PA hierarchy?? I'll bet. Why didn't they complain then about the ISM?? During the stand off, the IDF claimed that the priests were being held at gun point. What was the follow up on the validity of this claim...?

. They were acting as human shield not to accused terrorists, but to CONVICTED terrorists that were supposed to be in Palestinian jails under PA jurisdiction...but instead they were out organizing more acts of violence. These were the terrorists that were extradited, while the rest went free

ANYONE can seek refuge in a Church. I don't condone terrorists walking free, however I'd need to know more about who was in the church, and you must forgive me if I don't trust the claims made often by the IDF. Did the PA admit these men were convicted, since you claim it was their jurisdiction....?

It's false to call them a peace group. They support "militants" and acts of violence on civilians... they support and shield those who hold the Palestinian society hostage. If they don't realize this they should get the fuck out of there. A pawn IS a pawn. Who cares how naive they are. "Ooops who knew that guy in our office was teaching children to blow themselves up? We want peace, we swear". It's bullshit.

So says you. Many others feel that they are helping an occupied people, and I tend to subscribe more to that story, rather than the clearly slanted story that everyone they assist is in fact a wanted terrorist by the IDF.

The truth is most pro-Israel supporters are horribly saddened by this event. And all the while, the ISM continues to encourage misguided young people from around the world, like Rachel Corrie, to spend time in the Middle East providing cover for terrorists.
Bring on the inquiry.

Right, lesson learned. The IDF taught a lesson that should be appreciated, right ABC?? Don't you dare come to help all of these filthy "terrorists," because that's ehat they clearly ALL are, right?

(I might be wrong but I thought you do an autopsy on a corpse not an x-ray)

If you want to have recored, printed evidence of the nature of her skull fracture, I think you would x-ray regardless.

Originally Posted by Vince Zeb

Abcd is making kevin *Gasph* actually have to answer questions instead of trying to look intelligent! This ought to be fun to watch.

Run along now and let the adults talk, Vince. Go update your porno site, or something....