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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 02:08 AM       
I'm guessing the side that is the devil?
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 02:09 AM       
Is there any room in there, btw, for checks and balances the president might have on the power of Congress, or do you figure it only goes one way?
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 12:18 PM       
The side of the really autistic devil.

And his side of the balance is making the appointment. He can make appointment after apointment he knows won't go through and take the gamble that the constant rejection of his appointments makes the congress look worse than it makes him look.

OR he can appoint people he honestly thinks might be qualified and challenge congress to defy him.

He can also make recess apointments. He can do it to fill a position that desperately needs filling and as executive he feels filling the position is more important than confressional oversite. That's a hard case to make when you're appointing the ambassador to Belgium.

Or, legally, he can abuse his authority and make a recess appointement as a way of saying 'fuck you'. He is totally allowed to do that under current law. But when the opposition party or congress points out this this is the action of an asshole who cares more about saying fuck you than acknowledging the oversight role of congress, the President has no choice but to eat it, or make a convincing case. W has a big problem of wanting to say fuck you and have everybody treat it like he kissed a baby. Legally he can, and does, go right to the wall (and argubaly over and under it as well) with his authority to say "I'm the decider, that's why." But I would say his loss of congress and his lousy approval numbers that people are tired of it. It doesn't look as if he cares. Sounds like the Pres has a lot of power in the checks and balances game.

Oh, and Vetos. He has those. Not on appointment rejections, but on all the stuff congress decides. He checks their decisions, congress checks his. I swear to the sweet baby Jesus, the only part of my public school educumation that was any good was the basic civics portion of social studies, and they seem to have replaced it with Kwanza Appreciattion and Health ed classes taugfht by gym teachers.
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 03:29 PM       
So was it also abuse of the checks and balances system when the Dems were threatening to filibuster almost every single appointment suggested by Bush for four years?
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 04:13 PM       
Yes.

It was also an abuse of power to threaten to do away with the fillibuster entirely.

These are abusive folks. They should be called on it every time, loudly and with trumped up outrage.
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Old Apr 11th, 2007, 01:16 PM       
Alright, NOW we're on the same page... :D
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Old Apr 11th, 2007, 06:56 PM       
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/20...ews&frame=true

that's a very poorly written story in my opinion but it's the first time ive ever heard mention of president bush being impeached in the news
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