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Old Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:53 AM       
Curiouser and curiouser. Preech is correct as far as official responsabilities go. I wonder if in all of American History there has been a situation that forces a definition of just what the vice presidency is, legally.

As cosmo points out, if he wants to be defned as non executive, he doesn't get to claim executive privilidge. He's elected so he's not exactly a private citizen.

He clearly means to claim the office of the VP exists outside any sort of legal authority. Well, no, what he means to do is muddy the waters sufficiently that he's out of office before he has to answer any questions about anything. And I think his plan is to be long dead before anybody gets to know what he has and hasn't done.

Plus, he totally doesn't give a fuck. I mean, he so doesn't give a fuck it's almost impossible for anybody to wrap their head around. He's going to do whatever he thinks is a good idea without reference to law or posterity or anything. There are really only two questions left where Chenney is concerned. What does he want to do, and does he have people who will do it? I mean, I assume there are lines past which people would say 'No, sir.', but where are those lines?

I like to think that this could end in the Oval office with Chenney, Bush and Rove all shooting at each other, like some mob flick. It's exciting.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:56 AM       
I think if anybody tried to tell Cheney no, he'd just choke them with the Force until they agreed to do whatever it was.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:34 PM       
He's really off the grid. Despite how much I hate him, I have to admire his 'I do not give even the slightest fuck about what anybody thinks I'm allowed to do.'

I mean, I don't think he even spares a thought as to whether what he does is legal. I think he sees himself as one of history's actors, unconstrained by... well, anything.He's in the end zone. He's going to run the clock down in whatever way pleases him.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:04 PM       
well, as I understand it, theres a little known codicil in the constitution that, in time of national emergency, the Vice President may......

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Old Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:31 PM       
Im not surprised that Cheney would pull something off like that.
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Old Jun 25th, 2007, 09:59 AM       
Oh, it gets better.

From the LA times:

" Washington - The White House said Friday that, like Vice President Dick Cheney's office, President Bush's office is not allowing an independent federal watchdog to oversee its handling of classified national security information."

So I guess the office of the President isn't aprt of the executive branch either.
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Old Jun 26th, 2007, 02:31 PM       
oh, my....and it gets better still!

Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel has come up with the right response to Dick Cheney's attempt to suggest that the Office of the Vice President is not part of the executive branch.


The House Democratic Caucus chairman wants to take the Cheney at his word. Cheney says his office is "not an entity within the executive branch," so Emanuel wants to take away the tens of millions of dollars that are allocated to the White House to maintain it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20...tion/1207869_1
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