yeah oceanic is where they started to become really boring & awful. it's like the album that started the awful decline into whatever the fuck they are doing now (some shit they can open for tool with )
yeah their new stuff is shit but oceanic is the best album isis made. it just fits together better, in my opinion. celestial is good but its more like a load of songs. just like the EPs. we are really going to have to agree to disagree on this one pal cos this really gets my marbles rolling
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