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Old Nov 5th, 2007, 03:10 PM       
Vampire = Monster

Anne Rice/"Modern" Vampire = Colossal faggot with emotional baggage. Also, usually a Mary Sue.
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Old Nov 5th, 2007, 05:31 PM       
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Vampire = Monster

Anne Rice/"Modern" Vampire = Colossal faggot with emotional baggage. Also, usually a Mary Sue.

And usually those bloody Klingon foreheads. What the deuce is that all about?
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Old Nov 6th, 2007, 01:35 PM       
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Vampire = Monster

Anne Rice/"Modern" Vampire = Colossal faggot with emotional baggage. Also, usually a Mary Sue.

Ok, fair enough. I prefer the scary monster, too

But how is that a reversion to some old vampire "mythos"?

The popular view of a vampire is the gay guy.
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Old Nov 6th, 2007, 01:48 PM       
To badly paraphrase those many wonderful George Carlin bits that I'm far, far too lazy to look up, "Popular usage is for schmucks". They're a scary part of local lore, a boogeyman variant, I don't care what AlphonseMcNiteheart@aol.com thinks.
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Old Nov 6th, 2007, 02:18 PM       
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They're a scary part of local lore, a boogeyman variant
Based on what?

And I'm glad you're a cultural snob, but if there was ever a medium that depended upon pop success it's horror.

Where are you getting your version of Dracula? Bram Stroker's and Rice were closer to the gay Vlad Tepes twist around you dislike.
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Old Nov 6th, 2007, 03:19 PM       
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Where are you getting your version of Dracula? Bram Stroker's and Rice were closer to the gay Vlad Tepes twist around you dislike.
Dracula isn't the beginning of the vampire mythos, it's when our idea of it was popularized. The first vampires weren't even bloodsuckers, they were haints. They made their way from Eastern Europe-Baba Yaga territory and evolved into blood or flesh eating ghouls. (Note: This is how I understand it, but I can't pretend to have done any seriously involved research. Shutting up now, Tithonus is far more well versed than I am).

The one thing that I can definitively tell you is that Bram Stoker's Dracula had a hell of a lot more to do with Lord Byron than Vlad the Impaler.
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