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Old Mar 5th, 2008, 06:33 PM       
Um, they made spin-offs and a movie about Mario and Street Fighter 2 (I'm not aware of FF7 having a Where's Waldo-type book, although feel free to enlighten me if I'm wrong). Are they considered highly overrated?

As far as FF7 being overrated, I'm a bit torn. I thought it was okay. My beef with it was it was riddled with the stupidest minigames I've ever plodded through, like the snowboarding with the dumbass controls, and performing CPR on the girl, and the Rufus Shinra welcoming display. But when it knocked off that minigame crap and delivered solid RPG gameplay, it was fairly decent. I was also impressed with the graphics (I played through it last summer, for what it's worth)... well, mostly. I mean, Rufus looked like the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.

Now, on one hand, there's the "BEST GAME EVER" folks. But I've actually heard more people call it garbage than I have heard it called "Best Game Ever", and most people, even most of the people who call it "Most Overrated Game Ever" seem to only call it "average".

I definitely lean to it being overrated, given all the cosplayers and copycats (like that Zap! webcomic) and how the GameFAQs Character Battles always come down to Cloud vs. Link or Sephiroth vs. Mario, but I think the title of "Most Overrated Game Ever" should go to a game that's actually bad.

At least you can look at the game itself and find inspired monster designs, color, and intriguing scenery, as opposed to Shadow of the Colossus teaching people that brown and gray and a sun that's timefrozen midway through a supernova are preferrable to all of that.
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Old Mar 5th, 2008, 08:11 PM       
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Um, they made spin-offs and a movie about Mario and Street Fighter 2 (I'm not aware of FF7 having a Where's Waldo-type book, although feel free to enlighten me if I'm wrong). Are they considered highly overrated?
1. "Mario" is a franchise, not a single game. If they started making spin-offs and movies about Super Mario Bros. 2, then yes, that would likely be an overrated game.

2. SF2 saw all sorts of corny merchandise tie-ins, including GI Joe-style action figures with vehicles for some reason. In that respect, yes, it was completely overblown just like Mortal Kombat would be overblown a few years later. However, the game also did a lot for the SF2 series in terms of game mechanics, including the introduction of the "combo" attack, whereas a game like FF7 had only minor additions to the basic gameplay.


Finally, you're wrong in saying that a game should have to be bad to be overrated. It just has to be not as good as people claim that it is, such as when people talk about FF7 like it was the pinacle of RPGs. That sets the bar way too high for such an "average" game.

As for your comment on how SotC looked, I could care less how a game looks as long as it's entertaining. And I enjoyed Shadow of the Colossus.
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Old Mar 8th, 2008, 05:55 AM       
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1. "Mario" is a franchise, not a single game.
FFVII has (for better or worse [probably worse]) become a franchise as well, though. Hence games like Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus.

Personally, as far as FFVII goes, I'm in the "Best Game Ever" camp. I actually think it's underrated in many ways.

Most overrated game ever, off the top of my head, would have to be Rainbow 6 Vegas. I played that for 20 minutes and was bored out of my mind the whole time.
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Old Mar 8th, 2008, 09:42 AM       
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Old Mar 8th, 2008, 09:42 AM       
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Old Mar 8th, 2008, 09:43 AM       
I thought the story in FFIV and FFVI were way better developed.......
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Old Mar 8th, 2008, 11:57 AM       
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I got another one: Deus Ex. Why are people so obsessed with this game. It's really not that great. The combat system is the worst I have EVER seen in an FPS. I realize it's not a straight FPS, but a RPG/FPS hybrid, but that doesn't mean they have to make the shooting system in the game suck so hard it actually ruined the game for me! Seriously, it's mediocre at best.
Deus Ex is great because of all the ways you can go about doing things. I do agree that the gunplay combat is annoying. It's that way because it isn't a traditional FPS where you are supposed to go balls out and kill everything so it's toned down a lot and pretty much just a real time rpg combat system. After upgrading your gun abilities and weapons, it does get better.
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