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[CaptainBubba]

"sure gun ownership can lead to less crime but the foundations of that idea are based on a society that has no respect for life"

Its statements like these that I just fail to comprehend. The foundations of the idea are based on a society that belives in personal freedom. Where ON EARTH do you come up with ideas like that? Please for the love of god someone explain where the idea that gun ownership has a direct correlation to violence are barbarism. And don't simply say it is obvious, or "I just know". Without facts or statements defended by logical deductions you have no argument.

And don't bring up Micheal Moore. It makes you look horribly desperate for someone who speaks for you, since a great deal of his information is completely false and his documentaries are intended for shock value, not actual persuasion. (according to him in defense of his lack of credible information and fabrication of data).

Edit: The nuke analogy is completely irrelevant. This is an issue of the individual's right to defend himself. I guess women should be helpless against rape offenders, I mean, golly, if they had guns they might accidently shoot the poor guys who will have guns regardless of the laws that are passed.

Edit again: For those who wish to debate the meaning/intent of the 2nd amendment. First I would ask what YOU personally believe it means. If "the people" is under question then prepare to lose a few other rights.

If "arms" is under question then you are intentionally attempting to interpret something out of context in order to serve your own agenda. You have absolutely no credibility from this point on in my opinion if you have to do that to supplement your arguments. Arms refers specifically to firearms and the courts have said so. In the Militia Act of 1792, the second Congress defined 'militia of the United States' to include almost every free adult male in the United States. These persons were obligated by law to possess a [military-style] firearm and a minimum supply of ammunition and military equipment.