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Old May 18th, 2003, 06:25 PM       
Platos Ideal State is based on the assumption than men, when born into a class, would for some reason desire to remain in it, no matter which it is. Furthermore, whereas he makes some cheap talk about class mobility, he promptly neglects to explain how anyone is to change a class when he has not had any support or education towards that end. Soldiers remain soldiers, philosophers philosophers and the bottom-row farmers remain the tool of the above. It is an inherently flawed system, and one that Plato himself later on in life discarded as infantile. The 'certification process' you speak of presupposes there's only one standard on which we are able to judge wisdom, intelligence and arete, whereas I see no evidence to suggest any such thing. All it would then stand to produce, would be rules that abide by the chooser's moral code, and thus fortify the status quo. Enter yet another dictatorship. Jolly.
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