Proposition 8 - Totally Gay Corollary Observations

[kahljorn]

So I ask you: what is your opinion of mind controlled marriages?

Obviously that is non-consensual, so no ;o.

The reason I ask is because the slippery slope is the one I see thrown out the most as why we shouldn't legalize gay marriage. I want people who honestly believe that legalizing gay marriage will lead to legalizing bestiality and such to stop and think for a moment.

Oh, I understand. No I don't think I or deadkennedy are talking about gay marriage actually eventually resulting in bestiality or marrying inanimate objects. It's just a criticism of somebody's reasoning. Personally, I don't think legalizing gay marriage would ever result in bestiality. However, people give out extremely sloppy reasons for legalizing gay marriage.When people give out sloppy reasons why gay marriage should be supported, they sometimes inadvertantly give a reason why bestial marriage should be supported, as well.
Maybe some people misunderstand that type of criticism and assume it means that it will actually lead to bestiality, but it doesn't actually say whether gay marriage is good or bad or will actually lead to these things. Only that the reasons which somebody has given could also be given as reasons to support this other thing

It's similar to this: Let's say somebody defines good sexual acts as things which are natural (which people usually do because they think gay sex is unnatural, to which people usually point to the tons of animals which are gay or bisexual). In nature, usually male animals pretty much mate by raping female animals. So, it's good to rape women ;/
But nobody thinks that making a criticism like that would be bad, right? Naturalistic arguments are horrible.

On the contrary, what I was saying had very little to do with gays at all. I was answering your question of why pedophiles and zoophiles shouldn't be allowed to get married. At this point, gay marriage is barely even involved in the discussion

Yea, I'm trying to explain to you how animal marriage is relevant to this topic. I hope you understand now.

Everybody knows they shouldn't be able to get married. That's why it makes an efficient criticism.

Of course, the irony is that I declined to talk about the age of consent because I felt like it would be getting off topic.

Me too, but you didn't really stay on the topic. You changed an argument which attacked one set of premises to another which had better premises to make it seem like the other person's argument is ridiculous. That's completely changing the topic.