
May 23rd, 2003, 11:20 AM
"I'm just going to have to ask you straight up, what the fuck are you talking about here? Is there some government police that people are supposed to take their complaints about laws, legislation and foreign policy to?"
The framers of the Constitution actually set a precident for dealing with a government which is victimizing its populace, its called Revolution buddy. I realize this concept is kind of obscure in American historty, but a few of us are privy to such arcane knowledge.
My point, to make things this, no more than you would appeal to the sensibilities of a serial murderer about to kill you, would the people complain to the government they are being victimized by. Seeing a few dollars directed into government projects you disagree with is not so great a concern that anyone is truly a victim as a result.
"Do you feel that it is unfair that money that you worked for is taken from you and given to others?"
No. I pay my taxes because it is a civic responsibility, and I trust the powers that be to make use of those assets as they see fit, as they are in a better position to to make those decisions than many citizens are. We as a society grant them that power because we realize that they are better informed than we are, in theory, and thus tend to respect their decisions. Granted, they are everybit as prone to judgements of error as we are, but because of their occupation, it is far less likely.
"If it is unfair, then do you not feel that the government has done something wrong?"
No, its not like a tax has ever been passed which the public did not see coming. The system is very concise, you can follow a bill's procession all the way to becoming a law, on television and online. You can agree with it, or disagree, but the system is not unfair. If you don't like a bill, get together a petition. Write some letters. Phone your senator. There are steps which can be taken, steps which are taken, by those with a very un-victim like mindset.
"Your ability to not see yourself as a victim is perhaps a testimony to your sense of self reliance."
Or a testiment to the fact that we do not live in a society where conservatives are self-percieved victims. How many conservatives post here? How many took heated offense to your White Supremacist comparison and theory of victimized motivation for right wing thinking?
"However, my point, my reason to establish a discussion is that I believe that there are a large group of people who (and this is the important part) who no matter what the situation is (for example a tax increase that does little or nothing towards a welfare program) who will fire up a defense where they view themselves as a victim of a government that is taking their hard-earned money to give others a handout."
And you base this on. . .conjecture? You haven't provided anything even remotedly factually supportive of such a theory.
"I would say that most people who have wouldn't openly admit or even realize that that was how they came to their beliefs."
So we have self-percieved victims who don't see themselves as victims. Is this the latest breakthrough in your brilliant theory?
'Hmmm. . .These Conservatives don't seem to see themselves as victims. I can't possibly be wrong. They must be indenial!"
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