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El Blanco · #26

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Originally Posted by kahljorn

oh ;/

Geggy what is it you deny about the holocause exactly?

Hope you aren't expecting a straight answer.

Lets see if I can remember the lies he's tried pushing in the past.

1) Lack of Prussian Blue in the supposed gas chambers in the concentration camps means there was no zyklon-b used. So, the Jews there weren't gassed.

2) Most of the people that died weren't intentionally murdered, they died of starvation and disease that was rampant in the camps. I have no idea how that absolves the Nazis of their deaths, but Geggy does.

3) "Only" 1 or 2 million Jews died. Because thats no big deal.

4) The supposed concentration camps weren't really concentration camps

what have I missed, Geggy?

Who am I kidding? He is too much of a pussy to actually come back to a thread he started.

Big Papa Goat · #27

The argument made on that jews against zionism website is pretty silly. They're suggesting that the protests of Jews around the world against Hitler's anti-semitic regime were calculated to encourage anti-semitism and thereby 'prove' that Europe is irredeemably anti-semitic, making Zionism the only answer. But Hitler and his regime in Germany were irredeemably anti-semitic, that's what the Jews were protesting against. It's the most ridiculous kind of getting the cart before the horse to think that the angry reaction of Jews to Hitler's regime is what was responsible for the anti-semitic policies of that regime. This kind of argument seems strangely familiar actually. When the Jews do something to defend themselves against their rabidly anti-semitic and genocidal opponents, the genocidal anti-semitism of their opponents is explained by the Jewish reaction to said genocidal intentions. It sounds like circular reasoning, but I guess in a world where the Jews control everything, it does make a certain amount of sense.

Jeanette X · #28

Holy shit Geggy, are you that fucking stupid?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_D...War_on_Germany

kahljorn · #29

jeanette that's pretty funny.

but wikipedia is ran by jews of course they would say that

Kybo Ren · #30

when a bunch, okay a lot of jews get rounded up and killed during a WAR, it's a HOLOCAUST.

when the Armenians are almost wiped out by the Turks it's only GENOCIDE.

why is an atrocity on jews worse than an atrocity on any other people?

El Blanco · #31

Who said it was?

"holocaust" is actually a very precise term. Its like genocide turned into an industry. That, I think, is the most horrific thing about what went on in Europe in the 1940s.

A supposedly civilized, enlightened, Western nation could take the great advances of the Industrial Revolution, and twist them so badly.

Jeanette X · #32

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Originally Posted by Kybo Ren

when a bunch, okay a lot of jews get rounded up and killed during a WAR, it's a HOLOCAUST.

when the Armenians are almost wiped out by the Turks it's only GENOCIDE.

why is an atrocity on jews worse than an atrocity on any other people?

Erm, the Holocaust WAS a genocide, it is simply a term used for a SPECIFIC genocide.

Just like the Holodomor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

and the Stolen Generation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generation

and the Trail of Tears:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

and the Long Walk of the Navajo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Walk_of_the_Navajo

and the Potawatomi Trail of Death:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potawatomi_Trail_of_Death

But thanks for playing.

Grislygus · #33

Instant shutdown on two fronts

Kybo Ren · #34

I guess the holocaust has a better pr firm then other atrocities.

Jeanette X · #35

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Originally Posted by Kybo Ren

I guess the holocaust has a better pr firm then other atrocities.

Maybe you've heard more about it because it was witnessed firsthand by Americans in a country that they invaded in the 20th century?

No, wait, its because TEH EBIL JOOZ run the media. I forgot.

Emu · #36

jews and bush are stealing all my water

Big Papa Goat · #37

According to the wiki, religious Jews don't particularly like the term holocaust, since it's taken from pagan Greek religious practices, they prefer the Hebrew word for calamity. The word holocaust means something like 'completly burned' in Greek, which may have something to do with why the term is used to describe the genocide against the Jews, given the industrial scale of the killings carried out in ovens and gas chambers in the concentration camps. In any event, the Holocaust is just the particular term for a particular genocide, it's not a way to categorize the genocide against the Jews as having a higher degree of importance. Like Jeanette pointed out, most genocides have particular names as well, any genocide is a significant enough event to warrant being remembered on its own for itself and not as a generic event.

Tadao · #38

Oh damn, you just got holocausted!

Abcdxxxx · #39

Not exactly. The term derives from Hebrew, to describe ritual burning sacrifices.

Tadao · #40

Double holocasted!

Jeanette X · #41

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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx

Not exactly. The term derives from Hebrew, to describe ritual burning sacrifices.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/holocaust
1200–50; ME < LL holocaustum (Vulgate) < Gk holókauston (Septuagint), neut. of holókaustos burnt whole

Although used in translations from a Hebrew text, it is Greek. Not Hebrew.

Triple holocausted.

Abcdxxxx · #42

Like I said, it's derived from Hebrew. It wasn't born out of Greek Paganism yadda yadda. Context is everything. The Hebrew word was Olot which didn't have a direct translation for the King James translation, but that's what they're referencing. There are lots of examples of secular uses of the word long before the Shoah, but it's origins were the appropriation of the Old Testament.

Jeanette X · #43

The Olot doesn't sound as weighty as The Holocaust.

Big McLargehuge · #44

If "The Olot" referred to the systematic slaughtering of millions it probably would.

Abcdxxxx · #45

How about Shoah? Holocaust is fine....but like the term anti-semitism, there is a desire to appropriate and disarm Jews from having the ability to articulate a scary climate like what we're seeing in certain parts of the world today.